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Jimmy Snuka Arrested For Murder

  • 01-09-2015 7:20pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭


    Wonder what they'll do with Tamina? I would assume they'd take her off TV pending the investigation. She's right in the mix of the diva revolution story so her absence would be noticeable. But there's no way that people wouldn't know about this story and knowing some of the fans she could get a tough time of it


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Snuka was arrested this morning and sent to jail, bail set at $100K. Will be charged with 3rd degree murder and involuntary manslaughter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Did he never stand trial for that thing back years ago, what was her death ruled as if he didn't?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    He was not charged. The coroner said the death should be investigated as a homicide until proved otherwise. As to why it wasn't, your guess is as good as mine.

    This will be the end of him. Since he has cancer already, I can't see him lasting that long.

    I do wonder if this will lead to any bad pub for WWE. If you read the detailed stories about what happened, Vince McMahon himself went and sat in front of police claiming Snuka had little English and representing him to get him off a prior domestic battery assault case involving him and Argentino about 3 - 4 months priot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I think WWE ought to just play these things down, because they can't stand to lose that much if they just keep doing what they're doing and not write any of these guys in for cameos on television or anything. The idea that Tamina be punished for something that has nothing to do with her is disgraceful though, I really do think that. WWE would be better off just saying nothing about this whole thing. It's hard to believe that the business was so protected back then though that they were able to convince police Snuka had poor English.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Stereomaniac is right they play these things down and go on business as usual.

    Worst comes to the worst she is 37 so it isn't like she's at the start of her career.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭billion dollar baby


    Probably be best if they drop the Snuka part of her name from now on.

    Had no idea she was 37!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    They could release her for being God awful?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Probably be best if they drop the Snuka part of her name from now on.

    Had no idea she was 37!

    Jaysus I had her down as late 20's early 30's!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Ageyev


    Wonder what they'll do with Tamina? I would assume they'd take her off TV pending the investigation. She's right in the mix of the diva revolution story so her absence would be noticeable. But there's no way that people wouldn't know about this story and knowing some of the fans she could get a tough time of it

    Mainstream media pays little attention to WWE (and even less to pro wrestling overall) beyond the odd big event or scandal. It was know for years that the Argentino case stank to high heaven.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭billion dollar baby


    Ageyev wrote: »
    Mainstream media pays little attention to WWE (and even less to pro wrestling overall) beyond the odd big event or scandal. It was know for years that the Argentino case stank to high heaven.

    Maybe it was known but it would have been libellous to associate his name with the story given that he wasn't charged.

    Snuka has now been charged with third degree murder so I would imagine quite a few news outlets would pick up on the story given that he is a well known name.

    Anyway my comment was more directed to the potential heat Tamina could face from the WWE crowds given that her main selling point is being the daughter of Jimmy Snuka. When was the last time she had a match and it wasn't mentioned?

    It would be very wrong for her job to be affected by something she had nothing to do with but naive to think that there wouldn't be something said.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 60,270 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    WWE statement on it.
    WWE expresses its continued sympathy to the Argentino family for their loss. Ultimately this legal matter will be decided by our judicial system.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Amazing how badly the Police handled this investigation, surely they had enough evidence to charge him back in 83. You'd wonder did something shady happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    I wouldn't wonder, I'd be very confident something shady happened.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,258 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Monokne wrote: »
    I wouldn't wonder, I'd be very confident something shady happened.
    No need to assume shady when simply incompetence is the more common answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    This is what the coroner wrote.
    "Argentino suffered more than two dozen cuts and contusions — a possible sign of "mate abuse" — on her head, ear, chin, arms, hands, back, buttocks, legs and feet.

    In view of the autopsy findings and the discrepancies in the clinical history, I believe that the case should be investigated as a homicide until proven otherwise"


    What happened to the poice case..?

    The local police investigation went cold on June 1, 1983 after a follow-up interview with Snuka that was ordered by Lehigh Valley authorities and attended by WWF mogul Vince McMahon. It is still open to this day.

    Vince had gotten Snuka out of trouble with the police before. Here is Snuka's explanation of the meeting with the police & Vince from his book:
    "All I remember is Vince had a briefcase with him. I don't know what happened. I think Vince Jr. picked me up at the hotel and took me to the police station. He didn't say anything to me. I don't know if he gave Nancy's family money

    So the coroner says it was clearly homicide, the defendant gives multiple contradictory stories, and the case goes cold when Vince McMahon meets with the police. Celebrities getting away with stuff has happened forever. You'd have to be pretty naive to think there's nothing shifty there.

    You can read more here:
    http://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc-jimmy-snuka-cold-case-20130608-story.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I never even heard of this case until 3 years ago when a non/casual at very best fan told me that he thought Mick Foley was a piece of **** because he raised money for Jimmy Snuka doing something or other. It was at this point that he told me it was no secret that Snuka murdered his partner at the time. I couldn't believe it. Granted, at the time I probably didn't research professional wrestling as much on the internet as I have done since. Looking at the pictures of that woman, who was only 23 when this happened to her, I can't understand how someone could do that to such a beautiful young woman under any circumstances. The fact that Snuka has been able to continue in the public eye at different times over the last 32 years is just baffling. Did he convince himself that he was innocent, I wonder, or that maybe he was in the right doing whatever he did? My heart goes out to Tamina this morning when I read this article, and I hope that she has the support she needs from people around her. If she disappears off of television for a while, I sincerely hope that it's of her own accord and not some idiotic knee-jerk reaction from WWE/Vince. She's only his daughter, not his accomplice. Anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Split from the news (no chat) thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I was wondering when I saw the thread title there, how that grew to 2 pages in length quickly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    I think WWE ought to just play these things down, because they can't stand to lose that much if they just keep doing what they're doing and not write any of these guys in for cameos on television or anything. The idea that Tamina be punished for something that has nothing to do with her is disgraceful though, I really do think that. WWE would be better off just saying nothing about this whole thing. It's hard to believe that the business was so protected back then though that they were able to convince police Snuka had poor English.

    Agreed. They might give her some time off to get her right [they just found out he had Cancer and now this] and let the dust settle so she doesn't have to deal with the stupid smarks that would no doubt badger her over it. She doesn't deserved to be fired over it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    Is it to early to say Osw had a part in all of this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Vince telling people Snuka couldn't speak or whatever to the shades is the quintessential "wrestling is fairly scummy" story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭RedemptionZ


    Jesus. I don't understand how the evidence wasn't there. Must have been some brown envelopes involved. Would Vince be looking at serious charges if that came out? Because questions must be raised and answered over why it's taken this long.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭billion dollar baby


    Well she wrestled on the Smackdown taping which was after the story broke so I don't think they are pulling her off TV. Which is a good thing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    "What's Jimmy Snooker doing in the Impact Zone Mike Tenay?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Reebrock


    I imagine the WWF had a bit of a mafia don approach to NY in the 80's. Different times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    "What's Jimmy Snooker doing in the Impact Zone Mike Tenay?"

    ***3/4


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    "What's Jimmy Snooker doing in the Impact Zone Mike Tenay?"

    I feel like I shouldn't have laughed at that, but I did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Ageyev


    The fat lady isn't singing just yet....
    From wrestling fans, the most frequently asked questions of me are “Did McMahon actively cover this up? and “Will evidence along these lines be introduced? The continued presence of Procanyn as a face for the prosecution suggests that the answer to the latter is “No.”
    ....

    What I wrote was that McMahon sped back to Allentown and, in the observation of an investigator at the time (whom I named, by the way), served as Snuka’s “mouthpiece” during the wrestler’s interrogation -- while Snuka, essentially, worked his naive jungle-boy gimmick.

    Procanyn was a detective in 1983 and is now an investigator at the DA's office. William Platt was the DA in 1983 and is now a judge.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Agreed. They might give her some time off to get her right [they just found out he had Cancer and now this] and let the dust settle so she doesn't have to deal with the stupid smarks that would no doubt badger her over it. She doesn't deserved to be fired over it.
    Charlotte tweeted about her match against Tamina on SmackDown tonight just there a short while ago, and said, "generations collide." I wonder will that stay up.


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