Family Reunification

delvindave

Hi all. I hope someone here can give me advise as me and my fiancee are in a desperate situation. I met my girlfriend online 3 years ago and we chatted a while before i went there to the philippines to meet her. its about 2 and a half years since our first face to face meeting. I visited there 4 times in total. After a lot of application work and an appeal we finally got her a tourist visa to come here for 2 months last october. She was at this time pregnant with my baby. She came here and when it was time to return home we both felt it was not good to be flying late on in the pregnancy so she overstayed and had our beautiful son here in ireland. Iv asked her to marry me and she has agreed. we have applied for her to stay on the Zambrano grounds(being mother to a irish citizen). we made that application about 5 months ago and it seems to be taking forever.
Meanwhile my fiancee has a 4 year old son in the Philippines which she has not seen for 11 months now. He was originally left with a sister of his mother but due to a family arguement he is now staying with a neighbour of his mother. And she is now getting tired of minding him. His mother could fly home to him but then wont be able to re enter ireland as she has no visa status yet for here. Even after she gets her stamp 4 she will need to show she can support her son here financially. But she cant work(not allowed and having a new baby). she would have to be earning over 600 a week to get a reunification visa im told. I was advised that if i adopt him it might make it easier ???
We need to be married for adoption also. Even the registry office is telling us she needs her birth certicicate authenticated before we marry.( this needs to be done by philippines embassy here, which there is none. just a consulate) i cant make contact with the consulate.
So there you have it. Its a long complicated story. Im prepared to look at all options. Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks for reading. Any questions feel free to ask me

bisounours

I'm not able to help with the visa question, but have you researched the adoption process? My English friend married his Filipina wife and adopted her daughter, and from what I understand, it was a painful process. They travelled multiple times back to the Philippines, needed to pay "administration fees" multiple times to different entities. I believe they needed approval from the father of the child as well, and he was not willing to consent when they provided him with a "gift." I think it took 3-4 years in total....

delvindave

My God thats a long time. I originally thought the whole process might take 12 months at most. Its almost 12 months now and we are nowhere close. The child has no father mentioned on his birth certificate so i think this will be a big benifit. His mother will probably have to get her status sorted here and then we might both need to go there for me to adopt... hardly all be done on the 1 visit back

ohnonotgmail

In order to get permission to adopt abroad you first need to go through the adoption process with the HSE in ireland. As somebody already said this is a long and involved process with no guarantee of success. Given that she has a child back home would she not be better off returning home and trying to resolve her visa issues from there? Should her concern not be towards her other child first and then her own situation?

delvindave

might be a selfish answer but id miss them both too much (mother and my son). I could'nt imagine them going back and me being on my own. My new born would not be used to the extreme climate there also. Having said that there is the other child in Philippines being deprived of his mother. And i do feel bad about that.
Also she needs to be here in Ireland taking care of our son to be granted residency on zambrano grounds. If she gets that soon then at least she can go visit in philippines and come back easilly