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Mazda reliability

  • 27-08-2015 5:36pm
    #1
    Carb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭


    My question is probably slightly targeted at R.O.R. On a couple of recent threads, the reliability of Mazda was referenced, but I can't find anything of note online.

    The reason I ask is due to a change of jobs I may have to take my company car (and the lease commitments) with me. Under the lease terms this is a particularly expensive option, and I may consider trying to buy the car in a number of months when I'm in a position to finance it. Neither option is overly attractive if I'm buying problems.

    The car is a 142 2.2 Diesel Mazda 3 Saloon currently with 50k on it and I do about 60k per annum. I know there were issues with the previous diesel engines, but haven't heard anything about the new engine.


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  • #2
    murphyebass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Carb wrote: »
    My question is probably slightly targeted at R.O.R. On a couple of recent threads, the reliability of Mazda was referenced, but I can't find anything of note online.

    The reason I ask is due to a change of jobs I may have to take my company car (and the lease commitments) with me. Under the lease terms this is a particularly expensive option, and I may consider trying to buy the car in a number of months when I'm in a position to finance it. Neither option is overly attractive if I'm buying problems.

    The car is a 142 2.2 Diesel Mazda 3 Saloon currently with 50k on it and I do about 60k per annum. I know there were issues with the previous diesel engines, but haven't heard anything about the new engine.

    The 2.2 is prone to DPF issues.

    It has an issue where the oil level rises so you have to watch the level.

    I had an issue with this recently on my Mazda 6 2.2

    My issue seems to be connected with the mechanic not resetting the interval time though triggering the oil to rise pretty much straight after.

    Anyway outside of that Mazdas from my experience are pretty much bulletproof.

    My previous 2 Mazda 6's I couldn't fault. Normal servicing was all that was required and I expect this one to do the same.


  • #3
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    murphyebass wrote: »
    The 2.2 is prone to DPF issues.

    It has an issue where the oil level rises so you have to watch the level.

    I had an issue with this recently on my Mazda 6 2.2

    My issue seems to be connected with the mechanic not resetting the interval time though triggering the oil to rise pretty much straight after.

    Anyway outside of that Mazdas from my experience are pretty much bulletproof.

    My previous 2 Mazda 6's I couldn't fault. Normal servicing was all that was required and I expect this one to do the same.

    Is that the SkyActiveD engine in the current Mazda 3, 6 and CX-5 though?


  • #4
    james123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭james123


    murphyebass wrote: »
    Carb wrote: »
    My question is probably slightly targeted at R.O.R. On a couple of recent threads, the reliability of Mazda was referenced, but I can't find anything of note online.

    The reason I ask is due to a change of jobs I may have to take my company car (and the lease commitments) with me. Under the lease terms this is a particularly expensive option, and I may consider trying to buy the car in a number of months when I'm in a position to finance it. Neither option is overly attractive if I'm buying problems.

    The car is a 142 2.2 Diesel Mazda 3 Saloon currently with 50k on it and I do about 60k per annum. I know there were issues with the previous diesel engines, but haven't heard anything about the new engine.

    The 2.2 is prone to DPF issues.

    It has an issue where the oil level rises so you have to watch the level.

    I had an issue with this recently on my Mazda 6 2.2

    My issue seems to be connected with the mechanic not resetting the interval time though triggering the oil to rise pretty much straight after.

    Anyway outside of that Mazdas from my experience are pretty much bulletproof.

    My previous 2 Mazda 6's I couldn't fault. Normal servicing was all that was required and I expect this one to do the same.
    How much did that issue cost to fix? Also is it avoidable?


  • #5
    aido76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭aido76


    james123 wrote: »
    How much did that issue cost to fix? Also is it avoidable?

    The cost would be an oil and filter change.

    Is it avoidable? It is if you know how to drive the car. I have the slightly older 2.2 in a Mazda 6. The DPF needs to burn off every now and again. The car will only do this in certain conditions i.e travelling faster than 60kph, engine speed greater than 2500RPM and engine temperature is at nominal.
    Make sure service indicator is reset at time of service. In the older Mazda 6, this is linked to the DPF warning light. You don't need a main dealer to reset it - at least not on the older version (Google it). What I do is, 5000 miles or so after a service, I go on the motorway, making sure engine temp is at nominal, get the car to 80KPH in 3rd gear and set the cruise control. Engine Revs will be around 3000 or a little below. I leave it at this for around a minute and keep an eye on the fuel consumption. If the DPF kicks in to burn off, the fuel consumption increases and you will feel a slight jolt in the car like there was a miss in the engine which only last a split second. The burn off takes around 10 - 15mins. When its finished burning off, the fuel consumption will decrease and you will feel a slight jolt again. Once this happens you can return to driving normally (6th gear and 120KPH).
    The problem that people have with the increase in oil level is they stop the DPF burn off while the car is in the middle of doing it because they don't know it's happening. This is done by taking away one of the conditions that is needed to preform the burn off, mainly drop in revs and/or speed.
    If the DPF doesn't start a burn off within the minute of trying to start it, I go to normal driving conditions and try again in another 1000 miles.
    I service the car every 10000 miles. One burn off is usually all it needs between services. If the DPF does burn off I would try it again after 2000 or 3000 miles.
    Always check the oil level every couple of weeks a least. My oil level has risen between services but by very little.
    Sorry for the length of this but hopefully it will save some ones engine and maybe they will realise when the DPF is burning off.


  • #6
    Leonard Hofstadter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Probably a bit late for the OP (since it was last year), but my understanding is that the Skyactiv diesel suffers all the problems the previous RF diesels suffered from, unfortunately. Willing to be proven wrong on this, though.

    I do know (from first hand experience) that the Skyactiv petrols are remarkably fuel efficient considering their size and I've not seen anything online to suggest they are any less reliable than your standard petrol engined car.


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  • #7
    Carb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Carb


    captainspeed wrote: »
    Probably a bit late for the OP (since it was last year), but my understanding is that the Skyactiv diesel suffers all the problems the previous RF diesels suffered from, unfortunately. Willing to be proven wrong on this, though.

    I do know (from first hand experience) that the Skyactiv petrols are remarkably fuel efficient considering their size and I've not seen anything online to suggest they are any less reliable than your standard petrol engined car.

    Ended up not keeping it. Couldn't agree a price with the lease company. That said, I done 65k in 14 months, absolutely no issues in that time (as expected). Even had another 25 - 30k left on both the brakes and original tyres. I must drive like a granny.


  • #8
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    murphyebass wrote: »
    The 2.2 is prone to DPF issues.

    It has an issue where the oil level rises so you have to watch the level.

    I had an issue with this recently on my Mazda 6 2.2

    My issue seems to be connected with the mechanic not resetting the interval time though triggering the oil to rise pretty much straight after.

    Anyway outside of that Mazdas from my experience are pretty much bulletproof.

    My previous 2 Mazda 6's I couldn't fault. Normal servicing was all that was required and I expect this one to do the same.

    If your oil level rises you have bore wash, basically diesel in the oil. It doesn't " make" oil. ...

    And that to me is a sign of a poorly designed engine. There again I had an old old RF engined Mazda and it was a disaster.

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