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Is Donald Trump a Clinton plant?

  • 27-08-2015 10:11am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭


    OK how's this for a theory?

    Donald Trump is a good friend, socially if not politically, with the Clintons, Bill & Hill.

    He is a publicity hound and knows that a high profile helps his businesses in media, leisure and property development, however loony might be the antics that garner him this high publicity.

    He has entered the US presidential race as a Republican, in the course of which he has made several outrageous comments about Latino, and especially Mexican, immigrants and women. His popularity, among some members of society has soared.

    However, he is unlikely to gain many Hispanic votes nor will he be popular among independent-minded women. These are two key constituencies, coincidentally, which Hillary Clinton has to secure to win the presidential election.

    Could it be that Trump is being so utterly and transparently obnoxious about these voter groups expressly to turn them off voting Republican and thus deliver them into the hands of Hilary next year?

    Of course, this all falls to the ground if in fact Clinton and the Trumps hate the sight of each other, but a man in a pub told me they were best buds so it's probably true!!

    I think we should be told.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    well they are related... they share 18th great-grandparents :D

    personally i'd say they probably do get on well. Obama/Bush x 2/Bill Clinton are always pictured together having the craic (while being evil overlords) so why not Hilbo and Trump?

    The US presidential race is no more than a sitcom anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    A lot of people have wondered this, I'm glad I'm not the only one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Balf


    The US presidential race is no more than a sitcom anyway.
    And Trump is the light relief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    From a relative, a good statement.

    "So I'm not much for politics anymore on account of you know why... But I just have to rant a min... We have a globalist eugenicist builderburger, an uber wealthy half wit, and a staunch socialist... I'm sorry but wow this is baffling to me; the utter blindness of so many. Call me naïve but I refuse to think that people are actually voting for this clown Trump. Keep in mind the companies and corporations giving you the polls are the mainstream media outlets controlled by the same companies and corporations that own the government. Aside from the fact that the numbers you're being shown are complete malarkey, let it be known that Trump and Clinton have been in each others pants for years. He backs her financially and she backs him politically it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Anyway if enough people actually care about this country and their well-being, and future of our kids and all that, I don't know why you wouldn't want someone who's an actual anti-establishment president. If people would pry them self out of this black white left right republican democrat falls state of affairs, you would see that we really All want the same thing freedom & happiness. It's not about left/right and it only seems that way because that's how it's been force-fed to us for so many years. I just urge everybody to do a little historical research before you just jump in to who you really want to run this country, who you really think is GOING to run this country and when you vote for the person keep in mind that the people REALLY running the show Will NOT be the person who wins. Anyway good luck,and if you don't already know who Rand Paul is, I would strongly urge you to at least find out a little bit about the guy."

    I am inclined to agree, the money in Washington is broken when you have people who are at this point rich enough to buy out the entire election. I wanted to start a thread about the Koch Brothers actually but held off given that none of their purchased candidates have done anything in even the fake polling :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Dannyboy83


    Overheal wrote: »
    I am inclined to agree, the money in Washington is broken when you have people who are at this point rich enough to buy out the entire election.

    This is much more mainstream theory than conspiracy theory.

    You might find this video of interest.
    Dan Carlin describes the inherent flaws in the US model
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD5BkVzeKis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Dannyboy83


    OK how's this for a theory?

    It's legit.

    This is in danger of straying into the realm of political discussion, but numerous political commentators are remarking on the fact that Trump is forcing all other candidates further to the right.

    This is fine where the Republican nomination is concerned, but essentially disqualifies a candidate from the overall election, since they need to play more to centre.
    They can recant, in an attempt to recover the centre ground, but then they are in danger of losing their base.

    The thing that has surprised everyone, and particularly Donald Trump, is just how popular his extreme positions are proving to be, hence the entire debate moving further right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 GoingBonkers


    Hah! They're all on the same side. Their own side. It's not right or left, its money and no money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭dbit


    Trumps a nutter , All politics are simply a vale of lies , even in Ireland the politicians we see every day at logger heads with each other , often sit out each others back gardens sipping some exclusive form of liquid and laugh at us all. Same is true in the US punch and judy show for the masses is all .Democracy died for me after Lisbon treaty Part II.

    Only have taken up the interest to vote again recently, to vote as far left as i possibly can .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    I prefer the theory that Donald Trump actually died years ago, and the thing that sits on his head is actually controlling him like a puppet.

    Seriously, that guy is human? Although yeah, one would think Trump was the best thing that could happen to the Democratic party. Unfortunately, he does appeal to Uncle Oh God Do We Have To Invite Him, you know, the guy that spends the whole of Thanksgiving/Christmas dinner ranting about immigrants, dark skinned people (of any nationality), jerbs, welfare, bootstraps and the pulling up of oneself by them and how any sort of national health coverage is a scam. One is relieved when the afternoon is over and he can be shunted back out the door for another year.

    Oh god, President Trump. It really couldn't happen, could it? O.O


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    What benefit does this serve? Particularly when you take into account this email controversy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Still don't see what's in it for Donald Trump. Him being friends with Hilary Clinton isn't enough for him to go to these lengths...there would have to a big incentive but usually rich people like Trump would benefit from a Republican president.

    If it was the other way around, a ridiculous democratic candidate financed by the rich people who want a republican president then it would make more sense!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Massimo Cassagrande


    Trump has been bust more times than a toilet door in Coppers. Uber wealthy me hole. Uber indebted more like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Trump has been bust more times than a toilet door in Coppers. Uber wealthy me hole. Uber indebted more like.

    Some of his companies went bankrupt, not Trump himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Massimo Cassagrande


    Some of his companies went bankrupt, not Trump himself.

    Have a look at Forbes...
    "Trump was grilled on August 6 at the first GOP presidential debate for the 2016 season about the most recent Chapter 11 filing of a corporation sporting the Trump moniker. Fox News anchor Chris Wallace alleged Trump has “cost hundreds of jobs and deprived lenders of a $1 billion.”

    He might play the corporate game well in hiding behind companies, but he's been bust more times than Humpty Dumpty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭Serjeant Buzfuz


    He's clearly Hilary in a fright wig....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭Sergei Malatov


    How the hell has the emails scandal not buried Hillary?

    Another thing that has struck me is the age of the candidates.

    Jeb Bush, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders and Mitt Romney are all well into their sixties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Have a look at Forbes...
    "Trump was grilled on August 6 at the first GOP presidential debate for the 2016 season about the most recent Chapter 11 filing of a corporation sporting the Trump moniker. Fox News anchor Chris Wallace alleged Trump has “cost hundreds of jobs and deprived lenders of a $1 billion.”

    He might play the corporate game well in hiding behind companies, but he's been bust more times than Humpty Dumpty.

    It's an important distinction between his corporations and himself though.

    He has many different businesses; and a few of them going bankrupt from time to time hasn't harmed him too much.

    Trump himself is extremely wealthy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭aphex™


    I see the BBC have run a story on this theory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Agent Mug


    Classic good cop bad cop routine and it wouldn't surprise me if Hillary wins Donald will be rewarded with some kind of government role to play, probably border control and maybe even a weekly part in the simpsons, don't you just love the Americans :)


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