Fm104 have 16-year-old on air after 10pm

TheLonelyOne

Just saw on line that they have announced a new presenter for saturday nite show from 7pm-12am.

This presenter is only 16 so clearly the powers that be in there do not realize it is illegal to hire anyone under the age of 18 past 10pm in this country.

Mr Snow

Gavin Dowd also works for east coast fm.

good to see fm104 giving new talent a chance.

stevek93

A link would be helpful. Also I thought when Adrien Kennedy was on air he was breaking copy right laws by broadcast YouTube videos without the owners consent?

TheLonelyOne

end of the road wrote: »

1. how do you know he is 16?
2. maybe it was a typo?
3. maybe some of his show will be pre-recorded?
4. i'd doubt fm104 would be that stupid to break the law.

A relation of mine is in school with him. All in favor for new talent but when it comes to the stature of limitations for u18 it would seem fm104 need to read up on this one.


Stupidity at it's finest may be?

endacl

stevek93 wrote: »

A link would be helpful. Also I thought when Adrien Kennedy was on air he was breaking copy right laws by broadcast YouTube videos without the owners consent?

The only laws that fool breaks are the laws of good taste.

TheLonelyOne

Mr Snow wrote: »

Gavin Dowd also works for east coast fm.

good to see fm104 giving new talent a chance.

great to see them giving new talent a chance. have heard him once or twice and sounds good


either way fm104 will still be breaking the law when is comes to working rights for u18.

stevek93

We have just ruined it for him.

Kev W

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

A relation of mine is in school with him. All in favor for new talent but when it comes to the stature of limitations for u18 it would seem fm104 need to read up on this one.


Stupidity at it's finest may be?

That's not what "statute of limitations" means.

Does anyone know is it possible to get an exemption to the relevant law with the cooperation of the parents?

TallGlass

I am sure they are not breaking the law and know his age. Sure there's people hired in media underage all the time, its called an exceptional circumstances and I assume him and his parents also FM104 have documents waving these rights. I think you need to relax with your gruge against this guy mate to be honest.

kneemos

Five hours is the longest stint I've ever seen for a radio show.

Faugheen

kneemos wrote: »

Five hours is the longest stint I've ever seen for a radio show.

Hotmix on Saturdays on 98fm is 6 hours.

vicwatson

"The working hours for young people are regulated by the Protection of Young Persons (Employment) Act 1996. The Act sets maximum working hours, rest intervals and prohibits the employment of young people aged under 18 in late night work."

www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/starting_work_and_changing_job/young_people_at_work/hours_of_work_for_young_people.html


Limits on night work and early morning work

In general, young people aged 16 and 17 are not allowed to work before 6am in the morning or after 10pm at night. Any exceptions to this rule must be provided by regulation.

The Protection of Young Persons Act 1996 (Employment in Licensed Premises) Regulations 2001 (SI 350/2001) permits young people employed on general duties in a licensed premises to be required to work up to 11 pm on a day that does not immediately precede a school day during a school term where the young person is attending school. The Regulations state that the definition of general duties “does not include supplying intoxicating liquor from behind the bar counter in licensed premises or supplying it for consumption off those premises”.

constitutionus

so i presume theyll just pre record it then?

mattP

vicwatson wrote:

In general, young people aged 16 and 17 are not allowed to work before 6am in the morning or after 10pm at night. Any exceptions to this rule must be provided by regulation.

What would happen if an employer did break this law?🙈

L1011

There are vast exemptions to working age restrictions in the entertainment industry. Not sure if it applies here but it may

TheLonelyOne

TallGlass wrote: »

I am sure they are not breaking the law and know his age. Sure there's people hired in media underage all the time, its called an exceptional circumstances and I assume him and his parents also FM104 have documents waving these rights. I think you need to relax with your gruge against this guy mate to be honest.

No grudge at all mate from what I have heard he is quite good on air so you are barking up the wrong tree with that one.

bbability

If memory serves me right Jenny Greene was also 16 when she started on FM104.
Anyone who thinks they are going to make money or a career out of it needs to look long and hard at the road ahead because its a long one to the big dollars nowadays. Its not like it used to be.

pajero12

bbability wrote: »

If memory serves me right Jenny Greene was also 16 when she started on FM104.
Anyone who thinks they are going to make money or a career out of it needs to look long and hard at the road ahead because its a long one to the big dollars nowadays. Its not like it used to be.

Maybe they're just passionate about broadcasting and enjoy doing it?

There's a lot to be said for enjoying your job, It isn't all about money.

badgersbelief

L1011 wrote: »

There are vast exemptions to working age restrictions in the entertainment industry. Not sure if it applies here but it may

Like this guy said there would be exceptions when working in the media.

Iseedeadpixels

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

Just saw on line that they have announced a new presenter for saturday nite show from 7pm-12am.

This presenter is only 16 so clearly the powers that be in there do not realize it is illegal to hire anyone under the age of 18 past 10pm in this country.

People would complain about anything in this country! Sure I worked until 2-3 a.m in a pub at 16.

TheLonelyOne

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

People would complain about anything in this country! Sure I worked until 2-3 a.m in a pub at 16.

How long ago was that though as no doubt nearly all of us started working in our early teens but obvs the law has become more strict since then hence why fm104 will be breaking the law

Iseedeadpixels

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

How long ago was that though as no doubt nearly all of us started working in our early teens but obvs the law has become more strict since then hence why fm104 will be breaking the law

Why do you care? If you had your way you would deny a kid a great opportunity to break into radio?

TheLonelyOne

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

Why do you care? If you had your way you would deny a kid a great opportunity to break into radio?

Kid being the word there.

Iseedeadpixels

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

Kid being the word there.

Why do you care?

TheLonelyOne

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

Why do you care?

He is a minor and that is why I care but clearly it does not bother you in the least


Why not send some first year students into RTE on a graveyard shift F the law

Mightydrumming

bbability wrote: »

If memory serves me right Jenny Greene was also 16 when she started on FM104.
Anyone who thinks they are going to make money or a career out of it needs to look long and hard at the road ahead because its a long one to the big dollars nowadays. Its not like it used to be.

Nearly there lol

Then at 17 Jenny was given her own weekly dance column in The Sunday World newspaper. That same year she became the youngest DJ on radio landing the Weekend Breakfast Show on Dublin station FM104.

http://nkmanagement.ie/noel-kelly-portfolio/273-jenny-greene-broadcaster-

TheLonelyOne

Mightydrumming wrote: »

Nearly there lol



http://nkmanagement.ie/noel-kelly-portfolio/273-jenny-greene-broadcaster-

Hours of employment for u18 are 6am to 10pm

Weekend breakfast would I presume start at 6am therefore breaking no laws

Wanderer78

labour laws dont really exist in ireland anymore. its a free for all now. sure minimum wage doesnt even stand and zero hour contracts are great arent they?

Greenmachine

Title could be defamatory. Op is speculating on the the legal circumstance of the case, with providing anything by way supporting legal expertise.

Mightydrumming

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

Hours of employment for u18 are 6am to 10pm

Weekend breakfast would I presume start at 6am therefore breaking no laws

You are perfectly correct sir. I was referring to the age, found that link last week

Iseedeadpixels

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

He is a minor and that is why I care but clearly it does not bother you in the least


Why not send some first year students into RTE on a graveyard shift F the law

No it doesn't bother me in the slightest because I see his point of view of how happy he is to be 16 and have his own radio show! Why don't you ring Chris Barry later and make a complaint or is being a SJW on boards the best you can do?

Mightydrumming

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

No it doesn't bother me in the slightest because I see his point of view of how happy he is to be 16 and have his own radio show! Why don't you ring Chris Barry later and make a complaint or is being a SJW on boards the best you can do?

Couldn't agree more, FM104 are not dragging him in by the ear to the studio and whipping the sh!te out of him chanting 'one more tune'.


It's just another one of them *puts head in hands* post :rolleyes:

TheLonelyOne

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

No it doesn't bother me in the slightest because I see his point of view of how happy he is to be 16 and have his own radio show! Why don't you ring Chris Barry later and make a complaint or is being a SJW on boards the best you can do?

I think it is great that they have given him a show at such a young age. Have heard him and think he has bags of potential but I do think fm104/utv need to be more responsible when it comes to having kids working for them


They are breaking the law and you know it


End of

Iseedeadpixels

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

I think it is great that they have given him a show at such a young age. Have heard him and think he has bags of potential but I do think fm104/utv need to be more responsible when it comes to having kids working for them


They are breaking the law and you know it


End of

There we have it folks someone who has never broken a law in their life.

hullaballoo

Thread title changed. It is not acceptable to make an accusation such as that.

pinkypinky

If the OP is so concerned, why not contact the station and point it out? If they have not already realised it, then you'll be doing them a favour. They can then do whatever workaround is necessary. Pre-recording is the most obvious option.

martingriff

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

I think it is great that they have given him a show at such a young age. Have heard him and think he has bags of potential but I do think fm104/utv need to be more responsible when it comes to having kids working for them


They are breaking the law and you know it




End of

But its not end of. How do you know 100% they are breaking the law have you proof. As a poster said yesterday it may be prerecorded or as numerous people have said here they may have an exemption. You can't say for certain that the law is broken. You sound like a disgruntled person who has a grudge with the station

end of the road

TheLonelyOne wrote: »

I think it is great that they have given him a show at such a young age. Have heard him and think he has bags of potential but I do think fm104/utv need to be more responsible when it comes to having kids working for them


They are breaking the law and you know it


End of

prove it. UTV will have lawyers themselves, so i think they will know whether they are breaking the law or not. if you want, consider reporting it to the relevant authorities, or get over it. no point in whinging about it on here

wnolan1992

How many links are in the final two hours of the show? Incredibly easy to just prerecord a few while songs are playing earlier in the show and make it sound like the show is still live after 10. Could even be the case that the final two hours are a mix created during the week and just thrown onto the system.

Plus, the quoted legislation above says that exemptions are possible.

So basically, this thread is pointless because we don't know the terms of the guy's contract. If the OP feels they are breaking the law, contact the Gardai or the station. Bitching about it on Boards is just pointless nattering.

bbability

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Bitching about it on Boards is just pointless nattering.

Ah but its good to get it off one's chest..

wnolan1992

bbability wrote: »

Ah but its good to get it off one's chest..

Ah yeah, but when you have hot button issues like Rosanna Davison, I think it's a bad idea to waste our ranting on such a triviality as this! :P

Mr Snow

is gavin dowd finshed on fm104??.

i see on the fm104 website the takeover on saturdays nights host is Sorcha Long.