Do you think people who go to private college are posh?

Lollipop95

EDIT: Meant to be 'posh' not 'rich' at the end of thread title btw! Can mods change if possible.

Private colleges such as Griffith College and Dublin Business School. I've often read posts on here saying that people who attend private secondary schools/private colleges are all very wealthy people who are posh. I've also read on here that DBS is often abbreviated to as 'Daddys Business School'. Personally, I think the backlash (I know not everyone has an issue with it, but I think some people do) against those who attend private secondary schools/colleges is uncalled for. Why does it matter? I'm not saying this because I go to a private college. (it was on my CAO list, but I opted for my level 7 instead, which is in a public IT college. I also went to a public secondary school). I just think it's unfair that those with a better income than average are slated or referred to as "D4 heads".

I know this is AH but I didn't know where else to put this thread up for discussion.
What's everyone else's take on those who go to private colleges? I think if it offers the course that people want to study, then why not. As for private schools, if said school is known to offer a fantastic standard of education, then again, why not?

Right Turn Clyde

I couldn't give a rat's arse where anyone studied.

I went to Trinity. I got in the back door as a working-class, mature-student with enough brain cells to pass a few crappy exams. Now I never hear the end of it. I've had people looking down on me all of my life because of where I'm from. But now people are calling me a 'Trinner 'and a 'snob'.

Unbelievable rubbish.

Harry Palmr

you can edit the title yourself - just go to the After Hours front page and double click the title.

In response to your question, yes I do think those who go to private school are rich. Well, come from fairly wealthy families. My Mother could barely afford to send us to a normal non fee paying secondary school. It's all perspective I guess!

I don't have anything against those that went to private schools/colleges. Why would I? Is this a thing? If a family can afford to send their children to private schools why not.

nullzero

I think rich people should give us all a few quid the tight fisted gits.

my teapot is orange

The best gift you can give yourself is to resolve that you are absolutely not going to give a f**k what anyone things of your personal decisions which do not concern them. To worry too much over it gives them too much power to inhibit and control you.

The Backwards Man

My cousin and the hubby (the wans with the notions) registered their kid for Eton at birth at the time you could still do that.

He works in a bookies and lives in a bedsit in Tulse Hill now.

gormdubhgorm

I think it depends on what attitude you have rather the school you went to. Obvously some who go to private schools are posh. But would Bob Geldof be described as posh? Rich maybe, posh no.

WesternZulu

Well they're not poor anyway that's for sure.

Right Turn Clyde

The Backwards Man wrote: »

My cousin and the hubby (the wans with the notions) registered their kid for Eton at birth at the time you could still do that.

He works in a bookies and lives in a bedsit in Tulse Hill now.

Do I need to point out the irony involved in that comment?

DEFTLEFTHAND

What's posh anyway and why would it be considered a bad thing to be, you can't choose what you're born into.

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gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think it depends on what attitude you have rather the school you went to. Obvously some who go to private schools are posh. But would Bob Geldof be described as posh? Rich maybe, posh no.

Yeah, there's certainly an attitude or kind of person that I don't personally like, and those kind of people by and large would have almost always gone to private schools and often private colleges (I know because they TELL ME, apropos of fcuk all, usually). But it's not like I hear someone went to Griffith college and then automatically dislike them just because of that.

Fox_In_Socks

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What's posh anyway and why would it be considered a bad thing to be, you can't choose what you're born into.

Having ironed clothes.

Sh1tbag OToole

Anyone who goes to Trinners is posh. Even if they are a farmer's son from the hills of Donegal who paid the registration fee in turf and donkeys. Poshness can be gauged by the accent of the student after 6 months inside in the place. If he's calling carrots corrats you know you're in trouble.

Tarzana2

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

But would Bob Geldof be described as posh?

Er, yes? He's super posh.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Dumb Blonde School is posh now?

K4t

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Anyone who goes to Trinners is posh.

Not really though - many students go through Trinity without picking up the accent or the pretentiousness. Most people I imagine go there because of its reputation as a world renowned university and for arguably being the best college in the country, in a lot of areas anyway. Obviously this will attract a higher amount of rich and posh students but not all who attend are either of those things, nor is one a prerequisite for the other.

Arbiter of Good Taste

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Anyone who goes to Trinners is posh. Even if they are a farmer's son from the hills of Donegal who paid the registration fee in turf and donkeys. Poshness can be gauged by the accent of the student after 6 months inside in the place. If he's calling carrots corrats you know you're in trouble.

Complete rubbish - and generally is an indicator of a sizeable chip on the shoulder of the person who believes it

theteal

I thought people only went to Griffith and DBS because they did crap in the Leaving....?

Sh1tbag OToole

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Anyone who goes to Trinners is posh. Even if they are a farmer's son from the hills of Donegal who paid the registration fee in turf and donkeys. Poshness can be gauged by the accent of the student after 6 months inside in the place. If he's calling carrots corrats you know you're in trouble.

This is so ridiculously moronic.

Squidgy Black

Anyone I know who went to Griffith College or DBS only went there because they couldn't get the points for the course they wanted to do in a college such as UCD, Trinity, DCU, DIT etc.

They've low points for admission in comparison and aren't really that popular, unlike private secondary schools.

Nermal

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Do you think people who go to private college are posh?

No, mainly just thick. Possibly some might be both posh and thick. Advise your children not to go to colleges that have to advertise.

Tarzana2

theteal wrote: »

I thought people only went to Griffith and DBS because they did crap in the Leaving....?

That's always my first thought too.

Reverse snobbery is a funny thing. It's okay to stereotype people who were privately educated as snobby, spoilt and pretentious, but god forbid anyone would stereotype someone who went to a state school as ...anything!

I went to a well known boarding school in England. There were all sorts there, a good proportion of whom were financially assisted or scholarship pupils. The spoilt brats were not only in the minority, but were constantly under fire from the staff if they got so much as a whiff of snobbery or elitism. It's not encouraged in my experience, it's more an assumption people make. I don't think things would be much different in Ireland.

Elite schools gain their reputation by educating the potential future leaders in industry, government, whatever. They try very hard to make sure that everyone not only reaches their own personal potential, but is a walking advert for that school whatever walk of life they find themselves in afterwards. Some of the UK schools have been in business for hundreds of years by maintaining those strict standards of education and personal conduct. A high degree of academic achievement is the norm, they tend not to churn out underachievers.

SouthernBelle

Tarzana2 wrote: »

That's always my first thought too.

Me too.

Nermal

Candie wrote: »

Elite schools

You have the wrong thread, this one's about Griffith College and DBS.

Nermal

Nermal wrote: »

You have the wrong thread, this one's about Griffith College and DBS.

OP referenced private schools too.

Personally, I think the backlash (I know not everyone has an issue with it, but I think some people do) against those who attend private secondary schools/colleges is uncalled for

Squidgy Black

Candie wrote: »

OP referenced private schools too.

Private secondary schools are on completely different scales in Ireland to colleges and the topics been beaten to death on here over and over again.

_Tyrrell_

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Private secondary schools are on completely different scales in Ireland to colleges and the topics been beaten to death on here over and over again.

Op asked the question, and I gave my experience. I think that's ok, on a discussion forum. People have their perspectives, and they aren't always an accurate reflection of the reality.

Lollipop95

Candie wrote: »

Op asked the question, and I gave my experience. I think that's ok, on a discussion forum. People have their perspectives, and they aren't always an accurate reflection of the reality.

Yes, I kinda wanted to discuss both

chrisguy116

Nermal wrote: »

No, mainly just thick. Possibly some might be both posh and thick. Advise your children not to go to colleges that have to advertise.

This perfect example of idiotic stereotyping actually really annoyed me. Why would you assume private college students are thick ? Yes the point entry is lower but being a student in DBS for 3 years now I can surely tell you if you're thick you won't make it past first year! Plenty of low point courses offered in academic institutions all over Ireland every year, so by your logic we can assume anyone that does pursue one of these is also thick?!

_Tyrrell_

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Anyone I know who went to Griffith College or DBS only went there because they couldn't get the points for the course they wanted to do in a college such as UCD, Trinity, DCU, DIT etc.

They've low points for admission in comparison and aren't really that popular, unlike private secondary schools.

Or perhaps they went as a mature student? I got plenty of points in my leaving to study the course I wanted to study at the time. Fast forward about 12 years and I chose DBS when I changed career. This was because it offered the best course in my opinion for what I wanted to do.

gutenberg

Always heard that the stereotype of those who attended the likes of DBS, Griffith College etc. was rich and thick. The points requirements are generally much lower than for similar courses at the universities and ITs, so they're seen as a kind of last resort. Of course this is not the case for everyone, as with mature students etc. But certainly of the handful from my own school (which was definitely not posh nor fee-paying, but had a number of solidly middle-class students) who went to either DBS or Griffith, they fitted the stereotype to a tee: didn't get the points for business, commerce, journalism etc. at one of the public institutions, and rather than resit or not go to college at all, their parents paid for them to attend a private college.