Changes in procedure when declaring new engine size

colm_mcm

Interesting that Tipperary co co have updated their website to say this

http://www.tipperarycoco.ie/motor-tax/change-engine

To make an application to record a change of Engine you need:

Completed Declaration Form RF111 - form can be downloaded at www.tipperarycoco.ie/motortax or is available at the Motor Tax Offices.
Section 5 of Form RF111 must be completed and stamped by a Main Dealer.
The same Main Dealer must submit a letter on their headed paper confirming:
Registration number of vehicle;
that they have fitted the replacement engine OR that they have inspected the replacement engine;
the replacement Engine Number;
the cubic capacity of the replacement engine;
the type of fuel of the replacement engine;
signature of a representative of the Main Dealer and the signatory’s position held within the Main Dealership.
The Vehicle Registration Certificate must be surrendered.
Photo ID, e.g. Driving Licence/Passport, must be presented.
Please note that for Change of Particulars the person making the application/Registered Owner must attend the Motor Taxation Office when submitting the application. Applications will not be accepted through the post or third parties. Due to administrative requirements, the application must be submitted at the Public Counter of the Motor Taxation Office, but it will not be processed at the public counter at the time of receipt. The applicant will then be contacted by post as soon as possible.

NOTE: On processing, a new Vehicle Registration Certificate will be sent to the vehicle owner.

Before, you just needed to get a stamp on the form and that was that.

I also read on another forum that Shannon are not renewing tax or processing changes of ownership on cars that have had a smaller engine fitted until the above letter has been received.

Interslice

I wonder how much a main dealer will charge for this? I'm going to stick a smaller 1.6 engine into my car in a few weeks. Do I tell them to send the invoice to shannon:P.

Also engine no. aren't exactly the most visible thing on an engine. Presume they will have to take peoples word for it in some cases.

Supergurrier

I'd settle for 23cc less

Would save me over 200e p/a

Cee-Jay-Cee

What happens if you have a Saab? Or any car brand that doesn't have a main dealer in Ireland?

What's makes a main dealer any more competent to inspect or provide confirmation that an engine has been changed than a qualified mechanic working for an independent garage?

colm_mcm

You'd only spend it on petrol or something.

colm_mcm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

What happens if you have a Saab? Or any car brand that doesn't have a main dealer in Ireland?

What's makes a main dealer any more competent to inspect or provide confirmation that an engine has been changed than a qualified mechanic working for an independent garage?

Because it's verifiable. Up until now it wasn't checked, and even if it was - it was far too easy to forge a stamp.
A main dealer has a lot more to lose if providing false declarations.

I would think they'll be calling the person on the main dealer letter and verifying that they sent the letter.

The system of declaring engine swaps was a joke, if this is actually happening, it's a rare case of something being done right.

I wouldn't worry about Saabs . I would guess that it's mainly BMWs and 2.5-3.0 cars affected .

Would be interesting to see how many cars have another engine swap back to the original one.

Special Circumstances

You'd swear there wasn't a paper trail there already with the old process.
They'd want the ID of whoever signs off on it as well as the ID of who submitted it. Tbh, those who know people who know people will still be able to avail of this until [tone of reverence] the Motor Industry [/tone of reverence] feel the heat on this and/or the NCT check actual engine size against registered engine size.

colm_mcm

There isn't really a paper trail the old way. You could change the car into Joe bloggs' name, "he" could do the false declaration, forge the stamp etc, then you could buy the car back.
Currently no ID is required, nor is there any contact details required of the person inspecting the car - only a stamp.