When best to roll?

Deepsouthwest

Got grass seed into a field here lastnight, but didn't get it rolled or get the 10 10 20 out, heavyish rain all morning but fine now, and v warm. How long have I got to roll it? It's fairly sticky today, so don't want to ruin it

Greengrass1

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Got grass seed into a field here lastnight, but didn't get it rolled or get the 10 10 20 out, heavyish rain all morning but fine now, and v warm. How long have I got to roll it? It's fairly sticky today, so don't want to ruin it

Cambridge roller might be best for it if you can get one

mahoney_j

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Got grass seed into a field here lastnight, but didn't get it rolled or get the 10 10 20 out, heavyish rain all morning but fine now, and v warm. How long have I got to roll it? It's fairly sticky today, so don't want to ruin it

In an ideal world fertiliser out just before seed goes in and roller behind the seeder .if its sticky today is leave it and go tomorrow if it's dry or if not as soon as conditions allow .gg suggestion of Cambridge roller a good one but flat roller best .grass seed in here just over 6 weeks will give it its first grazing late next week

Markcheese

Would a heavy down pour be as good as a good roll ? (Idealy you'd have both) -

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

In an ideal world fertiliser out just before seed goes in and roller behind the seeder .if its sticky today is leave it and go tomorrow if it's dry or if not as soon as conditions allow .gg suggestion of Cambridge roller a good one but flat roller best .grass seed in here just over 6 weeks will give it its first grazing late next week

Slugs attacked ours despite pellets being out. In 3 wks today. Growing well where it wasn't hit

frazzledhome

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Slugs attacked ours despite pellets being out. In 3 wks today. Growing well where it wasn't hit

Bid you put down fert bags as I suggested?

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

Bid you put down fert bags as I suggested?

Yep and had slugs few days after sowing. Got out pellets but headlands still stripped

larrymiller

frazzledhome wrote: »

Bid you put down fert bags as I suggested?

Do what?

raypallas

Happened to us in the spring had to wait two and half weeks not ideal but worked out in the end. It'll be fine the rain will wash in the seed and it'll start to take. But i would always roll a field after seeding before grazing. Wait until it's dry or you could have all the soil stuck to the roller.

Farmer Pudsey

If it is not rolled by now I would let it. With the heat in the ground and the showers it is possible that a lot of seed will have chitted by tomorrow morning. I get the 10.10.20 out ASAP. and a bag of bag lime to the acre as well. If it needs rolling I do that after first graze.

Deepsouthwest

Well it's rolled and finished now, made a super evening so went at it. Lime went in just before the Harrow/seeder and tilled in with the seed, that's how I normally do it, and then spread fert before rolling. Thanx for the replies lads

Farmer Pudsey

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Well it's rolled and finished now, made a super evening so went at it. Lime went in just before the Harrow/seeder and tilled in with the seed, that's how I normally do it, and then spread fert before rolling. Thanx for the replies lads

You can till 10.10.20 in at that stage as well. As the harrow is set very shallow for final run it will not bury the fertlizer too deep. Great way to cut cost if sowing arable silage allows you to use urea in dryish weather. Rolling is more important in spring time as ground dry out very fast if not rolled. You use the rolling to seal moisture into the ground as much as to get ground contact with the seed

nhg

OH got the seeds in Tuesday night before the rain, got to roll on Thursday followed by 10-10-20 & finally the physolith .... so happy days plenty of heat between the showers.

Only time our land sees a roller is at reseed, Grass Harrow a few times a year from then on.... 50% of own land now reseeded (spray, plough, power harrow & sow) in last 3 years. Even did a bit of drainage prior to this years reseed.

CloughCasey1

Same sort of issue here. Stiched in grass on Tuesday evening ground terribly wet until today. Would be dry enough to roll in morning. Would I be doing more damage than good?

alps

Going with a Moore Drill on Monday. Contractor is adamant we should use slug pellets as the slugs can get a good run at the grass seed along the channels.
We usually went with the guttler seeder and never used slug pellets and never had an issue.
Could we get by just using slug pellets around the headlands, or could the slugs appear anywhere in the field?

RightTurnClyde

alps wrote: »

Going with a Moore Drill on Monday. Contractor is adamant we should use slug pellets as the slugs can get a good run at the grass seed along the channels.
We usually went with the guttler seeder and never used slug pellets and never had an issue.
Could we get by just using slug pellets around the headlands, or could the slugs appear anywhere in the field?

Definitely use slug pellets on all the field. stitchers are brilliant for reseeding but the slit they leave act like a runway for slugs. ... Slug pellets definitely.