help finding badr4

tbsat

Hi all. Long time lurker but first time poster.

Im hoping someone can help me with this problem before ive pulled all my hair out.

Im having trouble finding badr4. Ive a 1.2m dish (fixed) and cant get signal lock on it. I keep getting 28e (like we all do ) or 23e but no 26e.

I know its a difficult one to lock onto i spent about 2 hours before getting it in my parents on a motorised setup with a 1.1m triax and could pull in about a 70% signal with about 60 % quality on the mbc beam.

Also pulling in some of the nordic stuff of thor and 5e with a 1.8m up there but thats another story.

I would have imagined it would be slightly easier on a fixed setup but no such luck.

What would be the strongest transponder to set the reciever to to try again tonight? Its just mbc and dubai one that im after.

i dont think dish size is a problem. They are in meath with the 1.1m and im only in westmeath.

Thanks in advance

snaps

Well they are the strong transponders yes.

Do you all ready have the channels tuned in (ie from your parents dish, so they are working)?

If so connect your dish to your stb once its on 28east, flick back to MBC or Dubai one and nudge your dish very slightly west.

You should get some kind of signal even without raising elevation.

Also skew of the lnb is very important with 26east.

tbsat

snaps wrote: »

Well they are the strong transponders yes.

Do you all ready have the channels tuned in (ie from your parents dish, so they are working)?

If so connect your dish to your stb once its on 28east, flick back to MBC or Dubai one and nudge your dish very slightly west.

You should get some kind of signal even without raising elevation.

Also skew of the lnb is very important with 26east.

No i dont have it tuned in on my box. It was for their box that i set it up on. So ill be starting from scratch on mine unfortunately.

would you advise mbc or dubai 1 for a starting transponder? I used mbc for the last one but it was absolute torture.

You recon a few degrees west and play with the skew?

Thurston?

I used this TP before, since it has a symbol rate not used at 28 east: Yemen TV, 12182 MHz, H pol., SR 16200, 3/4 FEC.

Found 26 east no problem after 1st aligning on 28, Triax TD110 fixed.

TAFKAlawhec

You could try Qatar TV on 12034 H DVB-S SR-27500 & FEC 3/4

At present there are no transmissions at 28.2 East on 12032 H, so the Qatar TV transponder on Badr 4 will be free of nearly all interference from the Astra 2 satellites next door (just a slight raising of the noise floor instead).

Once you get this, try scanning 11919 H DVB-S 27500 3/4. If the scan gives you a list of MBC channels, then you're almost done, just fine tune for the maximum SNR or quality level on your receiver. Otherwise if the channel list returns Pick TV, you will need to nudge the dish just so slightly westwards and scan again. With a 1.2 metre dish in Westmeath, the Badr 4 BSS beam channels if aligned properly should come in fine (the Kuwait channels are on a FSS beam where signal strength is a little lower, you might lose them in the rain).

One funny thing is that if the dish is to be fixed, an object that could block off-beam reception of 28 east might help with signal quality - I learned this recently on my motorised dish when fine tuning its position on 26E that standing in a certain position in front of the dish seen SNR quality levels increase by 0.5-1db across the board except for the transponder mentioned in my first sentence, as my body was blocking interfering signals from 28.2 East! :pac: