(Note, jazz etc) Opinions on these two 2nd hand options please....

terrydel

I've decided not to return to the dealer who had the Nissan Note we looked at for my dad last week.
Still keeping an eye out for a Note, but I've also decided to cast an eye at the Honda Jazz and Fiat Panda.
Panda has a nice elevated driving position which my old man would love. And with our budget, it looks like we could get 2013 and maybe even 2014.
The Jazz looks to fit the bill also, plenty of room, tho not the most elevated driving position, however it is still a little 'van like', which is a requirement.
Its also far better inside than a Note imho.

Heres two that caught my eye:
Panda

Jazz

Opinions on the models in general, and the specific cars above would be very much appreciated. As in price, reliability, pros, cons etc.
Also, re. the Panda, are the dealership (tractamotors in blanchardstown) good to deal with?

Thanks.

colm_mcm

Maybe look at a Hyundai ix20 or Kia Venga

terrydel

colm_mcm wrote: »

Maybe look at a Hyundai ix20 or Kia Venga

Looking for petrol and budget is 10k or thereabouts, cant see any venga's that fit the bill.
ix20 is not in any way van like, so wouldn't be a runner.

colm_mcm

Ix20 is pretty much the same dimensions as the Jazz.

Just to be clear, it's not the i20

Anyway, there aren't any in budget apart from some autos for sale near the airport that I wouldn't touch.

Of the 2 listed, I'd have the Jazz, or another note.

terrydel

colm_mcm wrote: »

Ix20 is pretty much the same dimensions as the Jazz.

Just to be clear, it's not the i20

Anyway, there aren't any in budget apart from some autos for sale near the airport that I wouldn't touch.

Of the 2 listed, I'd have the Jazz, or another note.

Yep, ix20 is what ive looked at, very few in my budget, none from dealers. Was in a jazz today, it seems more like a van, tho ive not been in an ix20 yet.

colm_mcm

You can't go far wrong with a jazz to be fair.

The rear seats are very handy, have the same type in my civic, they fold up as well so you can put stuff standing up on the floor up to the ceiling

terrydel

colm_mcm wrote: »

You can't go far wrong with a jazz to be fair.

The rear seats are very handy, have the same type in my civic, they fold up as well so you can put stuff standing up on the floor up to the ceiling

My old man has driven vans all his life, so hence the need for something 'van like' Hes retired but still habours notions of doing bits and pieces, God love him!
What do you think of the Jazz Ive linked above? Its a private sale which Id rather avoid, just so the old man has a bit of a warranty and so on, but it looks a good price from what ive see, and a good spec too.

colm_mcm

It's def 1 Irish owner anyway, but is a UK import.

Seller appears to be the pastor in the Waterford baptist church.

terrydel

colm_mcm wrote: »

It's def 1 Irish owner anyway, but is a UK import.

Seller appears to be the pastor in the Waterford baptist church.

Yep, I called earlier and he said it was his father who owned it first.
Cant beat a man of the cloth as a previous owner haha
Price seems fair enough, allowing for a bit of a haggle.

colm_mcm

Is the car local to you?

terrydel

colm_mcm wrote: »

Is the car local to you?

Nope, live in Dublin myself, but in Waterford this weekend for the Sean Kelly cycle, so have a chance to check it out then.

colm_mcm

Ah right, usually I'd say do a car check before travelling

terrydel

colm_mcm wrote: »

Ah right, usually I'd say do a car check before travelling

Whats the cheapest one? Mywheels.ie was last time I had the need to use one.

cerastes

I don't know why berlingos are like for reliability, but the seated position looks high, or similar, the partner or kangoo?

colm_mcm

terrydel wrote: »

Whats the cheapest one? Mywheels.ie was last time I had the need to use one.

I dunno, you want one with finance check. UK one too.

colm_mcm

cerastes wrote: »

I don't know why berlingos are like for reliability, but the seated position looks high, or similar, the partner or kangoo?

Think they're nearly all diesel these days. Would certainly be vanny

bazz26

The Skoda Roomster is another one that is van like but they are not very pleasant to look at or sit in.

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Skoda/Roomster/1.2-TSI/161314315209280310/

colm_mcm

Off topic, but Are they still (not) selling those?

terrydel

bazz26 wrote: »

The Skoda Roomster is another one that is van like but they are not very pleasant to look at or sit in.

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Skoda/Roomster/1.2-TSI/161314315209280310/

Yeah, they are ugly as sin, and seem to be fairly high priced foe what they are.
Yeti would be a nice choice but my budget wont stretch.

bazz26

Seem to be gone from the skoda ireland site. It was based on the last generation Fabia anyway so probably poor sales could not justify making a new one. I'd say anything left is just old unsold stock.

colm_mcm

I seem to remember it being on a brochure that came in one of the papers. Think it was when they were doing free satnav, it was there then, think it had a facelift.

bazz26

terrydel wrote: »

Yeah, they are ugly as sin, and seem to be fairly high priced foe what they are.
Yeti would be a nice choice but my budget wont stretch.

No photos but:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-yeti-active-1-2tsi-105hp-m-t-5/10092355?offset=1

terrydel

bazz26 wrote: »

No photos but:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-yeti-active-1-2tsi-105hp-m-t-5/10092355?offset=1

Rang today, shes gone already.:eek:

terrydel

@colm_mcm - I did a motorcheck finance check on the Jazz that's for sale privately and been imported, and it all came back fine, so I'm happy enough to proceed to view it. Anything else to be concerned about?

terrydel

Right, I've checked this car out on motorcheck and its all come back fine.
Based on my limited knowledge, and internet search comparisons, the price looks good.
What do you experts reckon?
Jazz

Only downside is its a private sale for me, and as I'm buying for my old man, it would be better to get the security of a dealer sale, but cant always have everything.

cerastes

Dont know about the price, could be ok, havent been comparing
Space looks plenty, seats fold flat which I consider a good thing, looks alright inside.
Any idea what the fuel economy is like?

terrydel

cerastes wrote: »

Dont know about the price, could be ok, havent been comparing
Space looks plenty, seats fold flat which I consider a good thing, looks alright inside.
Any idea what the fuel economy is like?

Not sure on fuel economy, but anything ive read suggests it is good.

Carley353

terrydel wrote: »

@colm_mcm - I did a motorcheck finance check on the Jazz that's for sale privately and been imported, and it all came back fine, so I'm happy enough to proceed to view it. Anything else to be concerned about?

I don't know about the newer models but the 2007 version can be quick a bumpy ride for passengers in the rear. Might be something to check out if you'll be going over speedbumps regularly.

cerastes

Saw a jazz today, looks smaller than I thought, didnt look much bigger than a Micra, maybe slightly smaller than a Note.
It's possible its deceptive of the space inside, as how you can fold seats can seem to make the available room bigger.