Keep your seat belt fastened

smurfjed

A Hainan Airlines Airbus A330-200, registration B-6133 performing flight HU-7148 from Chengdu to Beijing (China), was descending through about 4200 meters (13,800 feet) towards Beijing when the aircraft encountered two jolts of severe turbulence causing flight attendants and passengers, not belted into their seats, to lift off and impact the ceiling of the aircraft before coming down again. The crew continued for a safe landing in Beijing about 17 minutes later. 30 occupants were taken to hospitals, 7 of them were discharged shortly afterwards, 23 remain in hospital care.

Not sure if there are more of these events or if its more a case that they are now getting reported on sites like AvHerald.com but either way, always makes sense to keep your seatbelt at all times!

Locker10a

I personally know two colleagues who were off work with fractures due to this exact scenario happening on their flights!
"Fasten seatbelt while seated" simple !

PurplePrincess

It always amazes me the amount of people that unbuckle their seatbelt the minute the aircraft takes off. I think people are so used to flying nowadays and most rarely experience bad turbulence so they don't understand the effect it has and how quick and sudden it can be.

Growler!!!

I've posted this before but another reason not to take off your seatbelt until the sign is turned off!

syklops

Growler!!! wrote: »

I've posted this before but another reason not to take off your seatbelt until the sign is turned off!

IMO the purpose of the unbuckle your seatbelt sign is to indicate it is OK to stand up if you wish to do so. Unless I need to stand up, my belt stays buckled.

Stinicker

I just loosen it out and leave it buckled it should restrain you that way without it getting uncomfortable.

roundymac

Or get up and start rooting around in the over head bins when the sign is still on.

KCAccidental

Generally in China they get up and collect their bags while the plane is still rolling down the runway after landing.

roundymac

I remember a Qantas steward nearly having a seizure trying to keep them seated on a flight into Hong Kong.

APM

KCAccidental wrote: »

Generally in China they get up and collect their bags while the plane is still rolling down the runway after landing.

Having flown in China for a year now, that statement is as correct as saying generally in Europe the passengers clap after landing

syklops

KCAccidental wrote: »

Generally in China they get up and collect their bags while the plane is still rolling down the runway after landing.

I've seen irish people do that as well.

KCAccidental

APM wrote: »

Having flown in China for a year now, that statement is as correct as saying generally in Europe the passengers clap after landing

so you've flown ryanair a lot then

PringleDemon

KCAccidental wrote: »

Generally in China they get up and collect their bags while the plane is still rolling down the runway after landing.

Japanese are always doing this too .

eusap

from memory the 777 crash at San Francisco the one person who died was because they did not have a seat belt on?

Maybe i am mixing it up

kingtut

The problem is the airlines/stewards don't enforce it. They make an announcement but anyone who stands up or unbuckles before the light is turned off should be asked to sit down / buckle up.

I fly a lot and have yet to the cabin crew going up to people and asking them to do the above.

Growler!!!

eusap wrote: »

from memory the 777 crash at San Francisco the one person who died was because they did not have a seat belt on?

Maybe i am mixing it up

2 died at the scene, 1 succumbed a few days later. Of the 2 at the scene, both were thrown clear 1 of whom was run over by a fire truck. No indication as to seat belts on or off. A number of crew were also thrown clear from the tail section they would have had 4 point harnesses. Yet still ejected and survived!

roundymac

kingtut wrote: »

The problem is the airlines/stewards don't enforce it. They make an announcement but anyone who stands up or unbuckles before the light is turned off should be asked to sit down / buckle up.

I fly a lot and have yet to the cabin crew going up to people and asking them to do the above.

Once on a EI flight did I see a steward tell any one that got up while the seat belt sign was on that they did so at their own risk. Other than that CC generally seem to ignore passengers who ignore the sign.

Locker10a

roundymac wrote: »

Once on a EI flight did I see a steward tell any one that got up while the seat belt sign was on that they did so at their own risk. Other than that CC generally seem to ignore passengers who ignore the sign.

This seems to vary airline to airline, My airline for example are very VERY strict with the seatbelt sign, they have had as i mentioned already a few serious incidents and if you get up when the seatbelt sign is on you will likely be told to promptly sit back down until its switched off.
Having said that the flight deck are very vigilant with the seat belt sign for us, and switched it off as soon a possible once its safe so people can go to the toilet etc. Its only switched on if necessary inflight and then switched off straight away again. This i feel gives the sign "meaning" !!
Wheres in my experience (dont shoot me down please) some airlines EI being one, the seatbelt sign has come to mean nothing, its left on for far to long, its ignored and not enforced at all. I very often feel EI pilots completely forget about it and passengers just ignore it and do as they please.

smurfjed

Another case, this time with a 777-300

Dozens of Qatar Airways passengers were reportedly injured when a plane was rocked by severe turbulence in the skies over the Philippines.
Local media said at least 40 passengers suffered various injuries when the Boeing 777-300 had a bumpy approach while flying from Doha to Manila.
Three children and two flight attendants were among those who complained of minor injuries such as abrasions.