weighing scales

annubis

anyone know if this is a good scales?
http://www.connachtagri.ie/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_naru.tpl&product_id=6&category_id=41&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6

i see o donovan eng at Tullamore had a nice trutest one for 1170 euros ex vat so bit of a price diff
http://www.odonovaneng.ie/cattle/cattle-weighing/

Sam Kade

They're a bit of a gimmick anyone I know that got one user them once or twice and have them in the shed gathering dust now.

MfMan

Most certainly not a gimmick; use mine frequently and are an invaluable aid when selecting cattle for factory, even moreso at times when factories are docking for overweight as in 2014.


Have the Connacht Agri one and it's fine. Completely flat platform ones are better for bigger animals; don't tend to weigh as exact on ones with raised edges as they tend to sometimes put a foot / feet standing on the edge and not weigh as accurately then.

Count Mondego

Have the Connacht agri one, the 8ft bull scales. The extra foot is worth it as they'll be moving above on it.

Only complaint is that it's fairly wide and awkward to get in and out of the crush. This is a criticism of my crush race, not the scales. Brilliant to know the exact weight of stock, especially when finishing.

epfff

I have tru test
Good scales etc
Very happy with it
It is only an educational tool
And no education came cheep
If you willing to learn it will teach you a lot
It will not put on weight by itself though

gctest50

could make one ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Beam-Scales-Pallet-Weighing-Cattle-Crush-Scale-Heavy-Duty-Weigh-/261643557081?hash=item3ceb2bd8d9

Reggie.

gctest50 wrote: »

could make one ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Beam-Scales-Pallet-Weighing-Cattle-Crush-Scale-Heavy-Duty-Weigh-/261643557081?hash=item3ceb2bd8d9

Now there's an idea :rolleyes:

Farrell

Reggie. wrote: »

Now there's an idea :rolleyes:

If you're making one, try a folding opinion, easier to carry between farms

annubis

gctest50 wrote: »

could make one ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Beam-Scales-Pallet-Weighing-Cattle-Crush-Scale-Heavy-Duty-Weigh-/261643557081?hash=item3ceb2bd8d9

good idea in fairness

Cavanjack

annubis wrote: »

anyone know if this is a good scales?
http://www.connachtagri.ie/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_naru.tpl&product_id=6&category_id=41&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6

i see o donovan eng at Tullamore had a nice trutest one for 1170 euros ex vat so bit of a price diff
http://www.odonovaneng.ie/cattle/cattle-weighing/

Have a Connacht one. Find it dead on. Can't compare it against any other make. Not a gimmick. Great tool especially for finishing cattle.

Muckit

Cavanjack wrote: »

Great tool especially for finishing cattle.

Does it measure BMI? in what way do you find it good? It won't tell you what fat cover they have. One animal could be finished at 550kg, another might not be finished at 700kg lw.

Knowing the correct weight for dosing is only thing I could think of it being handy for. But a cheap belly band will do the same thing to the accuracy required, without the gut fill inaccuracies that could be associated with the use of a scales.

Cavanjack

Muckit wrote: »

Does it measure BMI? in what way do you find it good? It won't tell you what fat cover they have. One animal could be finished at 550kg, another might not be finished at 700kg lw.

Knowing the correct weight for dosing is only thing I could think of it being handy for. But a cheap belly band will do the same thing to the accuracy required, without the gut fill inaccuracies that could be associated with the use of a scales.

If cattle are on a high concentrate diet (Bulls) you can keep an eye on them to see are they still thriving or not. Not much point giving Bulls 13 kg a day if they are starting to go stale and only putting on a kg lw a day. As for fat score that comes from experience. Good for knowing animal kill out also. Gives you more of an idea when purchasing stock. We are milking and we milk record. This is similar on the beef side of things. Also a 40% grand on a €1000 euro leaves you paying €600. Tax deductible at the higher rate leaves it costing €300. Not going to break the bank now.

Count Mondego

Muckit wrote: »

Knowing the correct weight for dosing is only thing I could think of it being handy for. But a cheap belly band will do the same thing to the accuracy required, without the gut fill inaccuracies that could be associated with the use of a scales.

Belly band is a load of shyte. Had one for years and it's miles out. When I got the scales, band was putting 70kgs extra on some cattle.

Farmer Pudsey

The reference cost for a weighing scales is 1164 euro. That reference cost is excl VAT I presume so total expenditure allowed is 1164+VAT ??????

annubis

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The reference cost for a weighing scales is 1164 euro. That reference cost is excl VAT I presume so total expenditure allowed is 1164+VAT ??????

i know the min expenditure for grant qualification is 2k and that 2k ex vat as far as i know

tomieen jones

Cavanjack wrote: »

If cattle are on a high concentrate diet (Bulls) you can keep an eye on them to see are they still thriving or not. Not much point giving Bulls 13 kg a day if they are starting to go stale and only putting on a kg lw a day. As for fat score that comes from experience. Good for knowing animal kill out also. Gives you more of an idea when purchasing stock. We are milking and we milk record. This is similar on the beef side of things. Also a 40% grand on a €1000 euro leaves you paying €600. Tax deductible at the higher rate leaves it costing €300. Not going to break the bank now.

Tax of the higher rate is unheard of in beef

Farmer Pudsey

tomieen jones wrote: »

Tax of the higher rate is unheard of in beef

Farm losses can be written off against other income:o

Cavanjack

tomieen jones wrote: »

Tax of the higher rate is unheard of in beef

Depends on a lot on ones circumstances. Off farm job, sfp,old age pension's, private pensions, married to a laying hen and maybe a few pound at the beef farming. It is possible to be on higher rate of tax.
Not saying I am by the way!

tomieen jones

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Farm losses can be written off against other income:o

If I ever win the lotto I'm going farming full time until is all gone

Tomjim

What's the oneill's weighing scales like

Buford T. Justice XIX

Tomjim wrote: »

What's the oneill's weighing scales like

I'll tell you next week:)

gctest50

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I'll tell you next week:)

big bag of rfid tags and a software wedge would save a lot of writing

Buford T. Justice XIX

gctest50 wrote: »

big bag of rfid tags and a software wedge would save a lot of writing

One step at a time...

Zr105

Tomjim wrote: »

What's the oneill's weighing scales like

Grand, well put together scales, I would say the leads do seem a little bit lighter than the likes of the trutest ones alright but so long as you make sure the don't get pinched they be a1!

Personally I wouldn't be mad on the folding type ones, A; they have the big edge on them that cattle end up standing on and never looks easy on the foot,
And B; they will eventually get a bit sloppy at the fold and could bend enough to touch ground in a slightly uneven floor giving a false reading.

Farrell

Display for scales stopped working, not battery as when you touch a button nothing happens.
Would anyone know what the issue could be?

RobinBanks

Putting a new floor into the crush and was also considering buying a scales. Would it be a bad job i wonder if the scales was set into the floor so that the platform is at ground level. I can see issues with muck, hair clippings, straw etc getting lodged between the platform and the ground thus affecting the reading of the scales.

At the same time I like the idea of having the scales at ground level so that cattle might walk onto it a bit easier and one could push the wheelbarrow over it easier. I use the crush for feeding cows silage as it is in the centre of a shed with 4 calving pins either side of the crush.

50HX

RobinBanks wrote: »

Putting a new floor into the crush and was also considering buying a scales. Would it be a bad job i wonder if the scales was set into the floor so that the platform is at ground level. I can see issues with muck, hair clippings, straw etc getting lodged between the platform and the ground thus affecting the reading of the scales.

At the same time I like the idea of having the scales at ground level so that cattle might walk onto it a bit easier and one could push the wheelbarrow over it easier. I use the crush for feeding cows silage as it is in the centre of a shed with 4 calving pins either side of the crush.

make the floor suitable for the scales, as in scales area is sunk down, when scales is not in use remove and put down a sheet of chequered steel to cover the step down

i wouldn't be gone on leaving the scales there full time