Garda background check for employment - how long?

Intifada

Not sure where to post this.

I'm actually moved over to Canada and my job requires a background check. The domestic check went through in a few days and the Irish one, unsurprisingly, hasn't progressed at all despite 10 days passing.

I'd rather not lose this job because the guards at home don't feel like doing a bit of paperwork. Does anybody know who I can contact? Would it be my local garda station at home, or is there a central Dublin one that handles these things?

Thanks

Mrs OBumble

Try your local station at home.

They won't do a full Garda clearance for overseas organisations, but there's a local certificate of some sort that they do. I'm not sure if you have to be in Ireland to get it.

BRYAN Is Ainm Dom

Intifada wrote: »

Not sure where to post this.

I'm actually moved over to Canada and my job requires a background check. The domestic check went through in a few days and the Irish one, unsurprisingly, hasn't progressed at all despite 10 days passing.

I'd rather not lose this job because the guards at home don't feel like doing a bit of paperwork. Does anybody know who I can contact? Would it be my local garda station at home, or is there a central Dublin one that handles these things?

Thanks

10 Days, you having a laugh! I was waiting 10 weeks recently and I am in Public Sector and actually transfered to a Garda Station! So prepare to wait. Not sure but I think the vetting department is in Thurles so maybe give them a bell.

Intifada

OSI wrote: »

Can take 6-8 weeks from experience.

In that case how does anybody get a job that requires a check? No employer is going to wait that long when they can just hire somebody in days instead.

Stheno

Intifada wrote: »

In that case how does anybody get a job that requires a check? No employer is going to wait that long when they can just hire somebody in days instead.

Only registered organisations here can request a Garda background check, you need to talk to your local station to see what they can provide

doopa

Intifada wrote: »

In that case how does anybody get a job that requires a check? No employer is going to wait that long when they can just hire somebody in days instead.

Should only be a couple of weeks. Had them done a few times in the last couple of years for positions in the UK. It was done through a company in Birmingham who manage the request with the Garda. 10 working days is fair enough.

Stheno

doopa wrote: »

Should only be a couple of weeks. Had them done a few times in the last couple of years for positions in the UK. It was done through a company in Birmingham who manage the request with the Garda. 10 working days is fair enough.

Was this to work with at risk adults or children?

doopa

Stheno wrote: »

Was this to work with at risk adults or children?

Yes.

Stheno

doopa wrote: »

Yes.

That's the only thing Garda vetting applies to here, you can't get vetting for anything else

http://www.garda.ie/controller.aspx?Page=66

Even the police certificate appears to be very proscribed

http://www.garda.ie/controller.aspx?Page=1548

doopa

OSI wrote: »

If the company requires a check, it's for a role that requires one and will need to be done regardless, so they'll have to get one for whoever they settle on.



It used to be much quicker, but there seems to be a massive backlog of late. Wife has had to get it done twice in the last 12 months and it's taken the best part of 2 2 months both times.

Can't understand that - RoI has a national police force. Bit more understandable why they have problems in the mainland UK with all the separate police forces, but surely in Ireland it shouldn't be so hard?

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Mrs OBumble

BRYAN Is Ainm Dom wrote: »

Not sure but I think the vetting department is in Thurles so maybe give them a bell.

The vetting department is in Thurles.

But they only do vettings that are requested by registered organisations - more info on this here: http://www.garda.ie/controller.aspx?Page=66

It is possible for some organisations that are outside what is described on that page to get registered (I know this, because I've handled forms for one of them). But I will pretty much guarantee that your potential employer in Canada will not be able to get registered.

Maybe the Police Certificate will be adequate for what you need (tell your local station that you need it to get a visa, not for an employment check!)

Maybe there is some way around this from Canada (eg like the organisation in Birmingham that another poster has referred to, which has found a way to get registered to get vetting done. It's likely that there is some scheme in place for doctors and maybe nurses). If you want, report this post and I'll move the thread to Living Abroad > Canada - where they may have some more ideas.

Worst case, OP, you may not be able to work with vulnerable people in Canada until you have lived there for long enough that vetting from home is not required. Yes, this sucks. But it's exactly the same problem as some foreign nationals have faced in Ireland: at one stage, the guards weren't willing to do a vetting one anyone who hadn't lived here for five years. (I think they've found some way to relax that now - you'd hope by sharing information with foreign police-forces.)

Intifada

OSI wrote: »

If the company requires a check, it's for a role that requires one and will need to be done regardless, so they'll have to get one for whoever they settle on.

They're settled on me. The Canadian part of the check went through in a couple of days since it's a 1st world country. The Garda one is still 'Ready to be Processed', leaving me to wonder whether any Irish people ever get a job with the government here, since they all require these checks. The employer can just move on to a Canadian applicant and not have to wait on the shambles that is AGS.

The company carrying out the check is Syndesi btw, if anyone knows of them. I am working under the assumption they have processed checks for Irish citizens before.

VisibleGorilla

I don't know how this will go through, at all.. like ever.

The only time the Gardai will issue a police certificate is for a visa, not for a job to my knowledge.

Intifada

Just for other people's reference, it came through yesterday.

Thanks for some of the replies. Remember kids, don't believe everything you read on the internet

VisibleGorilla

Out of interest was it a Police Certificate?