2016 US Election Coverage

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In the last week we have already seen so much air space given over to the likes of Jeb Bush, Donald Trump and Rosie O'Donnell. Today we must have had half an hour on the Marian Finucane show about the Republican party's nomination for next November(2016)'s election. Ryan Tubridy nearly had an orgasm because he was on promoting his cousin's charity in Ethiopia and then he went off on his favourite subject: American politics. He thought that it was odd that "the UK and the US are considering electing barmy leaders such as Jeremy Corbyn and Donald Trump" and then when he predicted that the next president of the US will be either Hilary Clinton or Jeb Bush.

So, do people think that there is too much coverage of US politics on Irish radio and what do we think of the quality of analysis?

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Yes, there is too much coverage especially at this early stage.

Irish radio in general is obsessed with UK and US news.

Fr Tod Umptious

US Presidential elections are a long drawn out process so coverage this early is par for the course.

What irks me mist is that the majority of media here are very slanted towards the Democratic party and you rarely find any guest that will properly analyse a Republican candidate, they just prefer to say "they are all crazy", and presenters never take them to task on it and ask them to give better analysis.

Marc Coleman when he was on at 10pm on Newstalk was an exception to this.
Not only did he articulate that Republicans had plenty of valid policies etc but he also required any Dem. supporting guests to give proper reasons why they disagree with the Republican party, not just the usual, " it would be scary if so and so is elected..."

I find Tubridy and Mary Wilson insufferable in this regard as they are both such Obama sycophants that thete is no objectivity to any discussion they present on the matter.

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Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

US Presidential elections are a long drawn out process so coverage this early is par for the course.

What irks me mist is that the majority of media here are very slanted towards the Democratic party and you rarely find any guest that will properly analyse a Republican candidate, they just prefer to say "they are all crazy", and presenters never take them to task on it and ask them to give better analysis.

Marc Coleman when he was on at 10pm on Newstalk was an exception to this.
Not only did he articulate that Republicans had plenty of valid policies etc but he also required any Dem. supporting guests to give proper reasons why they disagree with the Republican party, not just the usual, " it would be scary if so and so is elected..."

I find Tubridy and Mary Wilson insufferable in this regard as they are both such Obama sycophants that thete is no objectivity to any discussion they present on the matter.

Yes, the Democrats are portrayed as 'civilised' while the Republicans are all nut jobs. That's at least half of the population of the U.S then.
I've got to know Republican voters online and they feel totally cut off from central Government. I don't agree with all their views, but they are good people who's voices you will NEVER hear on Irish radio.
That's all wrong.

total former

You've never heard Michael Graham so.

Fr Tod Umptious

total former wrote: »

You've never heard Michael Graham so.

True, I never listen to Hook.

But he, and Cal Thomas on Matt Cooper, are what they are, right wing commentators.

What I'm talking about is the lack of proper analysis from your usual political/media round table that you have on current affairs programs.

And the lack of any interest from presenters, with the exception of Coleman, to discuss the GOP I a serious manner.

total former

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

True, I never listen to Hook.

But he, and Cal Thomas on Matt Cooper, are what they are, right wing commentators.

What I'm talking about is the lack of proper analysis from your usual political/media round table that you have on current affairs programs.

And the lack of any interest from presenters, with the exception of Coleman, to discuss the GOP I a serious manner.

Coleman is basically a Tea Party member himself so if you're looking for balance, he's not your poster boy.

At the moment it's silly season, with 17 runners how could you possibly analyse all their policies and politics? The story only lies in the crazy sh*t that Trump comes out with, will we have another Bush etc.

When McCain ran, the coverage was very good. It's not an anti-Republican agenda, but if the GOP want to be taken seriously, they need to stop running nutters, idiots and rich white men.

Fr Tod Umptious

total former wrote: »

Coleman is basically a Tea Party member himself so if you're looking for balance, he's not your poster boy.

At the moment it's silly season, with 17 runners how could you possibly analyse all their policies and politics? The story only lies in the crazy sh*t that Trump comes out with, will we have another Bush etc.

When McCain ran, the coverage was very good. It's not an anti-Republican agenda, but if the GOP want to be taken seriously, they need to stop running nutters, idiots and rich white men.

Your post is a good example of the US political narrative that we get in this country.

Firstly anyone who does not adhere to the Dem - Good/GOP - Bad line, in this case Coleman, is accused of being a member of a right wing fringe of the Republican party, and a fringe that has lost a lot of traction over the past few years.

Secondly you are quick to use tje terms nutters and idiots and you suggest that the Republican party are not taken seriously
The GOP are taken seriously, not by the liberal media in Ireland, but certainly by the normal good people of America that another poster mentioned, who's voices will never be heard this side of the water.

To those people Bernie Sanders is as much a nutter and an idiot as Trump.

The Dems are equally represented by rich white guys as the GOP, and Alan Keys was running for president before Obama ever was.

And by the way the McCain campaign was not that equally covered here.
I recall Tubridy telling us the morning after the election that "we could all love America again now", I mean WTF ?

Mary Wilson also told us on a travel spot on her show that we would be a rush of interest in travel Kenya what with Obama being elected .

Would there really Mary, come on?

total former

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Your post is a good example of the US political narrative that we get in this country.

Firstly anyone who does not adhere to the Dem - Good/GOP - Bad line, in this case Coleman, is accused of being a member of a right wing fringe of the Republican party, and a fringe that has lost a lot of traction over the past few years.

Secondly you are quick to use tje terms nutters and idiots and you suggest that the Republican party are not taken seriously
The GOP are taken seriously, not by the liberal media in Ireland, but certainly by the normal good people of America that another poster mentioned, who's voices will never be heard this side of the water.

To those people Bernie Sanders is as much a nutter and an idiot as Trump.

The Dems are equally represented by rich white guys as the GOP, and Alan Keys was running for president before Obama ever was.

And by the way the McCain campaign was not that equally covered here.
I recall Tubridy telling us the morning after the election that "we could all love America again now", I mean WTF ?

Mary Wilson also told us on a travel spot on her show that we would be a rush of interest in travel Kenya what with Obama being elected .

Would there really Mary, come on?

Ok, this is obviously a personal issue for you.

That Kenya quote is a bit mad but it must be 7 years ago, a long time to sulk over an off-the-cuff remark, no? Likewise Tubridy, most people don't care what he said last week, let alone 2008.

McCain was treated with a lot of respect but the unavoidable truth is that the real story was the black guy running for president. That's what people wanted to hear about, "liberal media" or not.

Anyway, getting away from radio and into politics.

Fr Tod Umptious

total former wrote: »

Ok, this is obviously a personal issue for you.

That Kenya quote is a bit mad but it must be 7 years ago, a long time to sulk over an off-the-cuff remark, no? Likewise Tubridy, most people don't care what he said last week, let alone 2008.

McCain was treated with a lot of respect but the unavoidable truth is that the real story was the black guy running for president. That's what people wanted to hear about, "liberal media" or not.

Anyway, getting away from radio and into politics.

Yes I personally believe that the Irish media do a very poor job in conveying and analyzing the range of opinions that Americans hold in the candidates that run for president.

And the Kenya remark from Wilson is one that I recall, there are many more I could find if I had the chance to listen back to any shows, but I'm sure there will be plenty again come January.