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If I don't want your service will you turn the water off?

  • 08-08-2015 4:54pm
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    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭elastico


    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.
    To install a septic tank and sink a well could cost €15000. Nobody believes you are serious.

    Why are you being so childish hiding behind your keyboard trying to troll real people just doing their jobs?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    elastico wrote: »
    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.
    To install a septic tank and sink a well could cost €15000. Nobody believes you are serious.

    Why are you being so childish hiding behind your keyboard trying to troll real people just doing their jobs?
    Not at all, I really am looking at alternatives to having to pay for a service that is nothing more than a extraction tool to pay for banking debts and over bloated executive salaries.

    Fianna Fail themselves have stated water charges will soon be €500 per year with others claiming at least €800 per year to balance Irish waters own books.

    I am looking for a genuine answer to my question as I see €15000 as a good investment in the long run.

    So Ill ask Irish water my question again;

    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Into The Blue


    Firstly, you should see if your soil is suitable for the percolation area.
    When those results are back, you'll have to add up the running costs of the aeration pump for the biocycle unit, along with the well water pump (assuming your land is suitable for a well).

    The planning can be poxy for a well and tank.. so get them organised first. If it turns out you're not in a suitable area, and iw have cut you off on your request, you'll be fairly goosed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭elastico


    Not at all, I really am looking at alternatives to having to pay for a service that is nothing more than a extraction tool to pay for banking debts and over bloated executive salaries.

    Fianna Fail themselves have stated water charges will soon be €500 per year with others claiming at least €800 per year to balance Irish waters own books.

    I am looking for a genuine answer to my question as I see €15000 as a good investment in the long run.

    So Ill ask Irish water my question again;

    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.
    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.


    Not that anybody thinks you are serious, but first step is probably to apply for planning which I doubt you would get for a septic tank and a well when there is already a mains system in place. But go right ahead and apply for planning, if you get planning approved maybe then is the time to contact Irish Water as you actually have an approved alternative in place.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    elastico wrote: »
    Not at all, I really am looking at alternatives to having to pay for a service that is nothing more than a extraction tool to pay for banking debts and over bloated executive salaries.

    Fianna Fail themselves have stated water charges will soon be €500 per year with others claiming at least €800 per year to balance Irish waters own books.

    I am looking for a genuine answer to my question as I see €15000 as a good investment in the long run.

    So Ill ask Irish water my question again;

    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.
    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.


    Not that anybody thinks you are serious, but first step is probably to apply for planning which I doubt you would get for a septic tank and a well when there is already a mains system in place. But go right ahead and apply for planning, if you get planning approved maybe then is the time to contact Irish Water as you actually have an approved alternative in place.
    With respect I would like Irish water to inform me if they would disconnect me on my request.

    I have been told that they will not be disconnecting any houses regardless, so obviously before I even go down the route of getting tests and applying for planning I would like to get the correct information directly from Irish water.

    I notice they have had all day to answer this simple question and yet no response.

    Strange.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    "With respect I would like Irish water to inform me if they would disconnect me on my request.

    I have been told that they will not be disconnecting any houses regardless, so obviously before I even go down the route of getting tests and applying for planning I would like to get the correct information directly from Irish water.

    I notice they have had all day to answer this simple question and yet no response.

    Strange."

    With respect, your question was answered in the top "sticky", re Water Bills. 

    "10. What happens if I don’t pay my water bill?


    Your bill will automatically fall in to an "Overdue" status once the 14 day payment term set out by the due date on your bill has elapsed. The Water Services Act (No.2) Act 2013 does not allow customers to be disconnected for not paying their water bill. Irish Water will engage with customers to understand the reason for non-payment and may be able to provide a solution, taking into account the customer’s circumstance.
    All customers who have unpaid arrears of at least the annual capped charge and haven’t entered into a payment plan with Irish Water, will attract an automatic late payment penalty of €30 (1 adult household) or €60 (all other households) for each year that the charges remain unpaid. This will be added to bills three months following a year of non-payment."


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Sickens me the way everybody is scoffing at the OP. I'd say the majority of Irish people grew up using a well and septic tank. Indeed, any new houses built in rural areas have to have a septic tank, no choice in the matter. Unless you like the feel of dock leaves on your arse.

    Good on you OP. Depending on the space you have available to you, you could have a 4' 6" wide well which any JCB would dig for you, or an artegian bore, which would require specialist equipment, but they're only about 6" wide. Handy for small back yards.

    For the septic tank, I would look into an aeration tank. 3m x 2m is all you need for the tank itself. Not sure about the soakage area, but I'm pretty sure you can "snake" it, so if you needed 30m x 1m of a percolation area, you can go up the garden 10m, back 10m, and up 10m again.

    Bets of luck anyway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    "With respect I would like Irish water to inform me if they would disconnect me on my request.

    I have been told that they will not be disconnecting any houses regardless, so obviously before I even go down the route of getting tests and applying for planning I would like to get the correct information directly from Irish water.

    I notice they have had all day to answer this simple question and yet no response.

    Strange."

    With respect, your question was answered in the top "sticky", re Water Bills. 

    "10. What happens if I don’t pay my water bill?


    Your bill will automatically fall in to an "Overdue" status once the 14 day payment term set out by the due date on your bill has elapsed. The Water Services Act (No.2) Act 2013 does not allow customers to be disconnected for not paying their water bill. Irish Water will engage with customers to understand the reason for non-payment and may be able to provide a solution, taking into account the customer’s circumstance.
    All customers who have unpaid arrears of at least the annual capped charge and haven’t entered into a payment plan with Irish Water, will attract an automatic late payment penalty of €30 (1 adult household) or €60 (all other households) for each year that the charges remain unpaid. This will be added to bills three months following a year of non-payment."
    With respect;

    Im not looking to not pay a water bill, im looking to be disconnected from the mains so I can avail my water elsewhere. I am waiting for Irish water to respond to see if this is something they can do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    To be honest once metering finally comes into play you'd be better off with a rain water collection system, at 15,000 initial outlay for the well, even using the highest figure of 800 you're looking at a decade at the very least before you'd see a return.

    The old folks are going to get a water butt and pump for gardening and maybe flushing the toilets etc


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Anyone who pays E15000 for a well is soft in the head. A day with a digger, a few liners, and a pump. Thats all you need.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,315 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    elastico wrote: »
    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.
    To install a septic tank and sink a well could cost €15000. Nobody believes you are serious.

    Why are you being so childish hiding behind your keyboard trying to troll real people just doing their jobs?
    €15,000, will ya give over. Easily less than a third of that.

    You point is a valid one, you don't need to be so ridiculous with your figures to emphasise it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Quazzie wrote: »
    €15,000, will ya give over. Easily less than a third of that.

    You point is a valid one, you don't need to be so ridiculous with your figures to emphasise it.

    Do the gov't still give a substantial grant towards the cost of  Digging your own well? (Not to those already on the public supply it seems)
    Individual Supply Grant Scheme

    Under this scheme, if your house is more than 7 years old and not connected to either a public or a group scheme, you may be eligible for a grant (subject to some conditions). The grant is worth up to €2,031.58 (or 75% of the cost of the work, whichever is the lesser) and must be used to provide a new water supply or to upgrade an existing one. Only one grant per house will be allowed in any 10-year period. In order to qualify for the grant, the proposed work must cost more than €635. A local authority inspection will be carried out before any work starts.
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/water_services/water_supply.html

    For by that, I find it quite amusing that many posters quite prevalent on other IW related threads are telling people who don't wish to engage with the new quango, that they are "Free to disconnect themselves from the supply" and "dig your own well and sceptic tank" if they are now seemingly mocking someone for apparently enquiring about such procedures? 

    Make up your mind guys! 

    IRISH WATER haven't even responded to his simple question, which in itself is a bit bizarre. 


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭elastico


    newmug wrote: »
    Anyone who pays E15000 for a well is soft in the head. A day with a digger, a few liners, and a pump. Thats all you need.
    Quazzie wrote: »
    €15,000, will ya give over. Easily less than a third of that.

    You point is a valid one, you don't need to be so ridiculous with your figures to emphasise it.


    A well and a septic tank dudes. Not just a well.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can the irish water representatives answer the OP?

    Two days now and nothing, are Irish water running scared from the OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭Irish Water: Aaron P


    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.
    Hi irishfreeview,

    Thank you for your query.

    Irish Water have drafted an interim policy on the voluntary discontinuation of domestic water supply and this is currently awaiting approval from the CER.

    I hope this helps.

    Kind regards,
    Aaron


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    I'd wait a year or 2 before investing any money in a different water supply, hopefully the current shambles is gone by then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    If I chose not to avail of Irish water and your service I would like to know what steps you will take?

    Will you send someone around to my house to disconnect the water and sewage mains from the public supply?

    Considering on investing on a Septic tank and drilling a well to avoid Irish water so I would like to know what steps you will take.
    Hi irishfreeview,

    Thank you for your query.

    Irish Water have drafted an interim policy on the voluntary discontinuation of domestic water supply and this is currently awaiting approval from the CER.

    I hope this helps.

    Kind regards,
    Aaron
    You don't think that should have been one of your first priorities Aaron?


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