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Does anyone agree that there is a massive difference in medical treatment between pri

  • 07-08-2015 11:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭


    Just wondering has anyone found that they have been treated definitely when they are paying a consultant and being public ie medical card ?

    I personally think there is started to attend neurologist three years when I was paying 250 every visit I had to attend every two months, now that im unable to work and have a medical card I feel attitudes have changed and appointment every six months.

    That would be ok if I had a diagnosis but I don't,have a large growth that appeared three year ago on my forehead constant headaches and still no answer. I feel stuck neurologist wont sign me.back till they have diagnoisis but arent doing anything cant afford private.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The guy you were paying didn't get a diagnosis either?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    It's a shambles here. Don't think that will ever change. First thing they do when you get a job and start contributing is take the medical card off you. So you can 'chance it' like I did or you can hand over a hefty sum to the private insurance industry who are firmly under the Government's wing.

    If you are persistent though you can get treatment from the medical card but you have to pretty much land up to the hospital, you might need to land up to different ones repeatedly. If you just go to a GP and hope for a referral you'll be bounced around the system, given appointments with dates in 2016 and the like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    I would only say that everyone's condition is different. Some patients are higher priority than others. If a pregnant women comes to hospital complaining of illness then see to her immediately. If some guy comes in with a injured arm or a pain in the eye I don't believe they should be treated asap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭cindrella


    kneemos wrote: »
    The guy you were paying didn't get a diagnosis either?

    No same guy only his attitude has changed the minute he discovered I had.medical card


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭cindrella


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    I would only say that everyone's condition is different. Some patients are higher priority than others. If a pregnant women comes to hospital complaining of illness then see to her immediately. If some guy comes in with a injured arm or a pain in the eye I don't believe they should be treated asap.

    I agree emergency etc should be seen straight away. Believe me when I say I have been patient over three years and they wont allow me to return to work. I have a mortage to pay and 700 a month on 188 is very hard just reckon if I was paying I might have answers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    It's a roll of the dice, in my experience..

    I was treated abysmally by one of the top, if not the top, neurologists in this country after an accident many moons ago. Seen him privately too and was even referred to him by a personal friend of his, who was, and still is, a renowned professor of Endocrinology in the country. Had we been in the states, I no doubt would have had grounds to sue the fcuker. On the other hand, in the public system, I have been treated superbly on many many occasions (but not always mind).

    I guess it all depends on who you see, what mood they happen to be in, and (sad as it may be) how they take to you and you to them. World's an imperfect place and all that and while it might be uncommon, a clash of personalities can happen between consultant and patient. There is no question about that, have heard far too many first hand stories at this stage to hold any other opinion. Have also met many people who only got diagnosed of one disorder or other, on getting a seventh or eight opinion, sometimes after many many years of being ill and no doctor uncovering just why.

    The only definite plus to going private is how fast you're seen, obviously, especially with regards to certain specialties, neurology definitely being one of them for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    It's a roll of the dice, in my experience..

    I was treated abysmally by one of the top, if not the top, neurologists in this country after an accident many moons ago. Seen him privately too and was even referred to him by a personal friend of his, who was, and still is, a renowned professor of Endocrinology in the country. Had we been in the states, I no doubt would have had grounds to sue the fcuker. On the other hand, in the public system, I have been treated superbly on many many occasions (but not always mind).

    I guess it all depends on who you see, what mood they happen to be in, and (sad as it may be) how they take to you and you to them. World's an imperfect place and all that and while it might be uncommon, a clash of personalities can happen between consultant and patient. There is no question about that, have heard far too many first hand stories at this stage to hold any other opinion. Have also met many people who only got diagnosed of one disorder or other, on getting a seventh or eight opinion, sometimes after many many years of being ill and no doctor uncovering just why.

    The only definite plus to going private is how fast you're seen, obviously, especially with regards to certain specialties, neurology definitely being one of them for sure.

    The neurologist wouldn't happen to have a brother who's an Irish TV presenter would he?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    As a PRSI payer this is my experience

    > Arrived to hospital in a very serious condition
    > Emergency surgery performed in under 1 hour
    > Released one month later

    > Two weeks later
    > Rushed back to hospital
    > Left in chair for 20 hours
    >Released 1 week later

    So look at my situation in which I am lucky to be alive, it depends on the factors, but them 20 hours where to me just as serious as been rushed in.

    As soon as the consultant arrived he asked if they passed exams in medicine keeping a patient with known stomach problems sitting up in a chair, was swiftly moved to a bed after that.

    I survived was the main thing thanks to the swift actions of the triage and doctors on call that Sunday morning.

    No idea what happened the second time, I think if you go over a certain number in A&E the place goes into meltdown !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    TBH I found a lot of the doctors who rushed into private practice were worse than those who had a real passion for medicine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Haven't been a patient in a hospital since i was born, haven't been to a GP in maybe 10 years. I dread ever being sick in this country. For such a tiny country, we seem to have incredible problems with managing our health services. Someone needs to reboot the whole thing, preferably before I get sick!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    conorh91 wrote: »
    Haven't been a patient in a hospital since i was born, haven't been to a GP in maybe 10 years. I dread ever being sick in this country. For such a tiny country, we seem to have incredible problems with managing our health services. Someone needs to reboot the whole thing, preferably before I get sick!

    Administration in the hospital needs to be sorted out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    "I'm happy to see my public patients because I learn so much from my experiments"

    - Classic Dave McSavage playing the role of a HSE medical consultant


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwN2ZENZsK8

    These short video gives a tiny but humourous view of how the HSE really works.


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