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Need a drill for occasional DIY

  • 06-08-2015 1:44pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34


    I need drill to put up some picturs, fix shelves etc. And then will need it maybe occasionally.
    for home DIY

    Aldi hava 810w hammer drill for 23 euro. First hit if you google aldi dot ie hammer drill

    It says

    "Ideal for drilling wood, metal, plastic and concrete.

    Hammer impact frequency 54,000bpm
    Variable speed – 0-3000rpm
    1.8m VDE cable
    Includes Adjustable Side Handle and Depth Stop"

    I cannot see if it needs a chuck or how the variable speed is chosen

    Would that do for my needs? I think it is corded if anyone knows of a cordless it would be handier for working out in the shed

    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,096 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Not sure what you mean about having a chuck, yes it has one. If you are asking about whether it is keyed or keyless it is almost certainly keyless. (It is almost impossible to get a keyed chuck inexpensive drill, I prefer them as my hands are not strong enough now to tighten/loosen the keyless ones satisfactorily.) The speed is probably regulated by how hard you press the trigger.

    My advice would be, if this is your first venture into buying a drill, get this one, or something similar. I have heard people say that aldi electrical goods are not as good as lidl, I don't know about that.

    Accept that it will not last forever, but you should get a few years out of it and by that time you will have enough experience to know what to look for to suit your own requirements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 NEW2DIY


    looksee wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean about having a chuck, yes it has one. If you are asking about whether it is keyed or keyless it is almost certainly keyless. (It is almost impossible to get a keyed chuck inexpensive drill, I prefer them as my hands are not strong enough now to tighten/loosen the keyless ones satisfactorily.) The speed is probably regulated by how hard you press the trigger.

    My advice would be, if this is your first venture into buying a drill, get this one, or something similar. I have heard people say that aldi electrical goods are not as good as lidl, I don't know about that.

    Accept that it will not last forever, but you should get a few years out of it and by that time you will have enough experience to know what to look for to suit your own requirements.
    "Not sure what you mean about having a chuck," yes i meant a keyless one where you tighten the bit in it by twisting the chuck not with a key. Thanks

    EDIT: Actually it has a key, there is a youtube review of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 NEW2DIY


    Would this drill drive screws too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    NEW2DIY wrote: »
    Would this drill drive screws too?

    I have two drills op. One is a power drill (mains power) like this, mainly used for masonry drilling, you can use it for timber and plasterboard as well, I wouldn't use it for driving screws though as it goes too fast. I also have a 18v battery drill, I use that for driving screws but its also handy for wood and plasterboard as you don't have to plug it in. I got both my drills in aldi/lidl and there grand for odd jobs around the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    NEW2DIY wrote: »
    Would this drill drive screws too?
    The problem is the lack of a torque settings which allow you to set how much the screw is to be tightened and to stop the chuck turning once it hits that setting. Stopping the chuck when the screw is tightened also help prevents the screw-bit chattering in the screw head and therefore helps avoid damaging the screw head and the screwdriver bit.

    The Aldi drill will drive screws but it's not designed to do so and will be difficult to control. You'd be better to get a drill with torque settings if you plan on using it for screw driving.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Wait 'till Lidl next have their cordless impact driver on sale again, they are excellent for screw driving and very controllable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 NEW2DIY


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    The problem is the lack of a torque settings which allow you to set how much the screw is to be tightened and to stop the chuck turning once it hits that setting. Stopping the chuck when the screw is tightened also help prevents the screw-bit chattering in the screw head and therefore helps avoid damaging the screw head and the screwdriver bit.

    The Aldi drill will drive screws but it's not designed to do so and will be difficult to control. You'd be better to get a drill with torque settings if you plan on using it for screw driving.
    Would i be better getting a cordless drill driver then.? Would that drill concrete.?If possible would prefer to only have to buy one

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    NEW2DIY wrote: »
    Would i be better getting a cordless drill driver then.? Would that drill concrete.?If possible would prefer to only have to buy one

    Thanks

    You can get cordless drills that will drill into concrete. You must make sure that it has hammer action.

    Personally,I have a number of drills. A corded one for drilling concrete, two 14.4v for timber, screws, plastic etc, and a 24v sds, recently acquired, also for concrete. I would tend to not use an 18v hammer action drill for concrete, but that's a personal preference.

    tl;dr you may need more than one drill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    NEW2DIY wrote: »
    Would i be better getting a cordless drill driver then.? Would that drill concrete.?If possible would prefer to only have to buy one

    Thanks
    I've a 14V cordless Black & Decker hammer action drill-driver. It's fine for drilling holes up to about 10mm diameter in concrete walls so it covers the majority of drilling jobs around the house (hanging curtain rails, shelves, etc), even mixing paint. Sometimes a particularly tough bit of aggregate within the concrete can stop you but you can usually get through it with a smaller drill bit first. A cordless machine is also so much more convenient (no wires to trip over, get tangled or damaged) but it's a pain if the battery is flat or worn out when you want it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 NEW2DIY


    cletus wrote: »
    You can get cordless drills that will drill into concrete. You must make sure that it has hammer action.

    Personally,I have a number of drills. A corded one for drilling concrete, two 14.4v for timber, screws, plastic etc, and a 24v sds, recently acquired, also for concrete. I would tend to not use an 18v hammer action drill for concrete, but that's a personal preference.

    tl;dr you may need more than one drill
    would the cordless drills that will drill into concrete also drive screws, do all i want?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Most cordless drills double as screw drivers but check the specs to be sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 NEW2DIY


    Thanks guys for the help


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 60 ✭✭newstyle


    Hi couple of days ago I saw a brochure from lidl. They will have a sds drill for about 40€. Set of bits and chisels for 14€. You will not find anything better in this price for concret drilling


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 NEW2DIY


    newstyle wrote: »
    Hi couple of days ago I saw a brochure from lidl. They will have a sds drill for about 40€. Set of bits and chisels for 14€. You will not find anything better in this price for concret drilling
    thanks.

    This? won't drive screws though?
    For drilling, hammer drilling and chiselling in concrete and masonry
    Depth stop for drilling in metal and wood
    Pneumatic hammer mechanism with high compression piston
    3 year guarantee
    Additional handle rotates through 360
    With non-slip soft-grip
    With tool holder based on the SDS-plus system including 3 SDS Drills Includes attachable keyed chuck for round shank drills
    Includes: 3 SDS drills (8/10/12 x 150mm), 1 pointed chisel (14 x 250mm), 1 flat chisel (14 x 250mm), 1 metal depth stop, 1 keyed chuck for round shank drills including key, 1 storage case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    No, it won't drive screws


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 NEW2DIY


    I saw a 12 v in aldi for 35 euro. 12 v any good? It is cordless but no hammer . in woodies there was a rok hammer i think from 40 to 20. it is yellow. the latest roks are green - old stock?

    i found an old tesco impact one. i tried screws with it before into wood but it stripped* a few of he heads. not great no model number or manual

    * is that the term?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    NEW2DIY wrote: »
    I saw a 12 v in aldi for 35 euro. 12 v any good? It is cordless but no hammer . in woodies there was a rok hammer i think from 40 to 20. it is yellow. the latest roks are green - old stock?

    i found an old tesco impact one. i tried screws with it before into wood but it stripped* a few of he heads. not great no model number or manual

    * is that the term?

    Stay away from 12V

    Stay away from ROK.

    GET TO B & Q and invest circa €110-€125 and get a decent 18 V dewalt, Makita or blue model Bosch. Any of the above will do you for years and all will be more than capable for basic to medium level DIY. It's probably the most important DIY tool one will purchase so it's worth spending a little extra on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 60 ✭✭newstyle


    NEW2DIY wrote: »
    thanks.

    This? won't drive screws though?
    For drilling, hammer drilling and chiselling in concrete and masonry
    Depth stop for drilling in metal and wood
    Pneumatic hammer mechanism with high compression piston
    3 year guarantee
    Additional handle rotates through 360
    With non-slip soft-grip
    With tool holder based on the SDS-plus system including 3 SDS Drills Includes attachable keyed chuck for round shank drills
    Includes: 3 SDS drills (8/10/12 x 150mm), 1 pointed chisel (14 x 250mm), 1 flat chisel (14 x 250mm), 1 metal depth stop, 1 keyed chuck for round shank drills including key, 1 storage case

    Yes exactly this one. if need more professional look at Blue Bosch at B&Q for 94€
    Regards


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