Water Meter Protest on Curraheen Road

Brussels Sprout

There's a large group of people (20-30) congregated at the entrance of Curraheen Park at the end of the Curraheen Road (near to the Dog Track). A few of them are holding Placards and signs and some are sitting in deckchairs so they look like they're in for the long haul.
Presumably this is because water meter installers are currently working on houses on the top of the hill about 500m away and will eventually make it to them. That doesn't look like it's going to be today or tomorrow though so they could be in for a long wait.
I only saw them for a few seconds as I drove past but they were standing in the middle of the road so appeared to be blocking the road and controlling access into the estate. Should be eventful in a few days when the water meter installers try and get into that park.

mikeym

Its pointless protesting the water meters because the Gardai will make arrests.

The only solution is non payment.

the beer revolu

They can come and install a meter outside my house. I hate not being metered. Pointless having water charges if everyone isn't metered.

pwurple

Send em round to my gaff as well. Paying average charge. We use feck all water. I know other people who have a bill for 4 or 5 quid, and we're on 64, like schmucks.

rob316

Its funny, my parents live on the estate (Uam Var) right next to Curraheen Estate and not a single person objected to having one installed.

The protests just feed the mob mentality. Just don't pay, getting pissed and angry does nothing. If 70% of the population refused to pay then it would be a failure and have to be scrapped. The people at these estate protests largely have nothing better to do, how else are you out at 6 in the morning forming a barrier at the entrance to your estate?

Abusing workers who are just doing their jobs, who have water bills of there own is just scumbag behaviour simple as.

Wether you get a meter or not, you are getting billed. Mass non-payment is the way to go if you want to protest.

Sh1tbag OToole

mikeym wrote: »

Its pointless protesting the water meters because the Gardai will make arrests.

The only solution is non payment.

Surely they can only arrest you if you're causing trouble.

Ludo

They are all out this morning at the entrances to Kenley on the Model Farm Road and at the roundabout by the entrance to CIT ready to block the meter guys. Really must have nothing better to do than stand around all day like that.

Markcheese

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Surely they can only arrest you if you're causing trouble.

Or blocking access -

Brussels Sprout

Ludo wrote: »

They are all out this morning at the entrances to Kenley on the Model Farm Road and at the roundabout by the entrance to CIT ready to block the meter guys. Really must have nothing better to do than stand around all day like that.

Would I be right in saying those two areas (Kenley/Leesdale and Curaheen Drive/Crescent/Close) are the only council estates in the area?

Dbu

Ludo wrote: »

Really must have nothing better to do than stand around all day like that.

Correct

CZ 453

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Would I be right in saying those two areas (Kenley/Leesdale and Curaheen Drive/Crescent/Close) are the only council estates in the area?

Pretty much.

Just above that estate(Curraheen Drive) on the main road and the Murphy construction lads were telling us they have been stopped entering estates that had houses worth millions. It's not just council estates but the majority seem to be.

We seen no protesting in the more affluent areas of Bishopstown.

kub

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Would I be right in saying those two areas (Kenley/Leesdale and Curaheen Drive/Crescent/Close) are the only council estates in the area?

Now that is interesting, is that a sign of Irish society i wonder? Funny how throughout the City and suburbs there seem to be no issues whatsoever for Irish Water workers to instal meters in private estates.

the dark phantom

kub wrote: »

Now that is interesting, is that a sign of Irish society i wonder? Funny how throughout the City and suburbs there seem to be no issues whatsoever for Irish Water workers to instal meters in private estates.

True, Maybe those living in private estates just have no bottle. Council estate people are made of sterner stuff.:pac:

pwurple

the dark phantom wrote: »

Council estate people are made of sterner stuff.:pac:

... Or have more time on their hands?

Brussels Sprout

I passed them again today at lunchtime and it looked to be mostly older men ( > 65 years old)

rob316

Ya passed Leesdale earlier mostly middle aged people, spotted a few familiar faces. I've got one and my parents have one but we as yet haven't paid the bill.

As my mam said " I wont be paying but I wont be out on the street making a holy show of myself".

calnand

Just a thought on the situation, if they are council houses, can the council demand they're installed, if the houses haven't been bought fully by the residents?

Ludo

calnand wrote: »

Just a thought on the situation, if they are council houses, can the council demand they're installed, if the houses haven't been bought fully by the residents?

I'm sure they can...but what if the residents still say no? What then? Evict them? That'll go down well. Talk about adding fuel to a fire.

moyners

Still there today. Numbers seem to be down slightly but I have yet to see the installers go anywhere near them...

mikeym

Arrests in Glanmire.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/two-residents-arrested-at-irish-water-protest-in-cork-1.2317061

Two residents of a housing estate in Glanmire, Co Cork who engaged in an Irish Water protest were arrested on Friday morning as demonstrations of this nature continue apace in the city and county.
A stand-off took place between campaigners and Irish Water staff. Two arrests were made at Brook Lodge housing estate as residents and anti-water charges campaigners blocked access to the entrance.

Sh1tbag OToole

Were the protesters being rowdy or did the guards just come in to do IW a favour?

the beer revolu

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Were the protesters being rowdy or did the guards just come in to do IW a favour?

Is not causing an obstruction on a public road and preventing people going about their legal business a good enough reason for the Guards to get involved?

Sh1tbag OToole

the beer revolu wrote: »

Is not causing an obstruction on a public road and preventing people going about their legal business a good enough reason for the Guards to get involved?

No. If causing an obstruction was a valid reason there would be no protest allowed at all

Brussels Sprout

The protesters are still there in Curraheen but as far as I can tell the workers are now working about a mile away up next to the B-town bar. Perhaps they're leaving that estate til later on as they know there'll be hassle there.

Brussels Sprout

The meter installers are back on Curraheen road again. Approaching the protesters now from both sides. Looks like things will be coming to a head in the next few days.

Brussels Sprout

Saw a new one today outside Westview on South Douglas road

Malari

Where are people getting all these posters that are going up in house windows?! Are these people attending protests where they give them out?

kub

Malari wrote: »

Where are people getting all these posters that are going up in house windows?! Are these people attending protests where they give them out?

I reckon there is plenty of left wing movements/ organisations getting those printed.

Malari

kub wrote: »

I reckon there is plenty of left wing movements/ organisations getting those printed.

All my neighbours seem to have put them up overnight last week, so I thought maybe someone was going door to door handing them out. :rolleyes:

byronbay2

Malari wrote: »

All my neighbours seem to have put them up overnight last week, so I thought maybe someone was going door to door handing them out. :rolleyes:

Yeah - people were going door-to-door (in Ballyphehane, at least) giving them out last week.

cudsy1

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Would I be right in saying those two areas (Kenley/Leesdale and Curaheen Drive/Crescent/Close) are the only council estates in the area?

curraheen estate, would people have any fears of current state/residents in 2019? i googled lawn, drive and estate and plenty of recent (last 5 years) hits mostly of examiner articles about court cases involving residents, armed robbery, feuding families including one surname beginning with 'D'....

the couple of times ive nosed around there it seems quiet, couple of massive white vans off the road parked there alright...

id imagine it was very lively in the 80s and 90s, wondering would it be mellowed these days...

corks finest

cudsy1 wrote:

curraheen estate, would people have any fears of current state/residents in 2019? i googled lawn, drive and estate and plenty of recent (last 5 years) hits mostly of examiner articles about court cases involving residents, armed robbery, feuding families including one surname beginning with 'D'....

From uam var originally, curraheen estate is generally ok , AKA "the reservation". The other one on model farm road is destroyed by heroin addicts,no nice way to put it,most of the problems in Bishoptown come from both these council estates, TBF vast,vast majority of curraheen residents are sound,but of all the houses in both estates ( originally ) only one bishoptown person got a house there,all outsiders from togher,+ the Northside

rob316

corks finest wrote: »

From uam var originally, curraheen estate is generally ok , AKA "the reservation". The other one on model farm road is destroyed by heroin addicts,no nice way to put it,most of the problems in Bishoptown come from both these council estates, TBF vast,vast majority of curraheen residents are sound,but of all the houses in both estates ( originally ) only one bishoptown person got a house there,all outsiders from togher,+ the Northside

Heroin addicts aren't exclusive to council estates, its destroying all over. I'm from around there too but haven't lived their in about 10 years. It's very quiet around there now from what I see and hear. Back when I was a teenager I would of been around Leesdale and Curraheen alot it had a bit of a reputation back then too but nothing like the council areas of Ballincollig or Togher. Never had a problem their growing up, if I ever did it was from outsiders.

I suppose this thread was dug up as the poster was thinking of moving there? Answer to that would be its absolutely fine.

corks finest

rob316 wrote: »

Heroin addicts aren't exclusive to council estates, its destroying all over. I'm from around there too but haven't lived their in about 10 years. It's very quiet around there now from what I see and hear. Back when I was a teenager I would of been around Leesdale and Curraheen alot it had a bit of a reputation back then too but nothing like the council areas of Ballincollig or Togher. Never had a problem their growing up, if I ever did it was from outsiders.

I suppose this thread was dug up as the poster was thinking of moving there? Answer to that would be its absolutely fine.

Correct ref heroin addicts not being exclusive to corporation estates etc,my own brother died of it,just being honest,leesdale is full of H ,as I'm from the area going back over 55 years I'm well qualified to talk about bishopstown

jimgoose

corks finest wrote: »

...of all the houses in both estates ( originally ) only one bishoptown person got a house there,all outsiders from togher,+ the Northside

I got one too, but I paid nearly $300,000 for it.

I have to say, I find the place to be a proper leafy little Sleepy Hollow.

corks finest

jimgoose wrote:

I got one too, but I paid nearly $300,000 for it.[/quote loaded,,,,,,as for leafy shade etc,is that minus the O Shea's, Delaney,and the other few scrotes who live there

jimgoose

corks finest wrote: »

...loaded,,,,,,as for leafy shade etc,is that minus the O Shea's, Delaney,and the other few scrotes who live there

Hardly loaded, Chief - Bishopstown prices in 2005. I don't know any scrotes in the immediate locality, but mind you I don't have any use for them and don't look for them.

corks finest

jimgoose wrote:

Hardly loaded, Chief - Bishopstown prices in 2005. I don't know any scrotes in the immediate locality, but mind you I don't have any use for them and don't look for them.

Good for u chief,,few locked up even last year,so you're better off knowing so