Mode of address ?

NUTLEY BOY

What is the correct mode of address when dealing officially with the following ;

1. A coroner.

2. A county registrar.

3. A master.

FreudianSlippers

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

What is the correct mode of address when dealing officially with the following ;

1. A coroner.

2. A county registrar.

3. A master.

Not too sure about 1, but going to make a presumption that it's "Coroner" based on the answers to 2 and 3 being:

County Registrar (I have head the previous CR in Dublin go absolutely ape on someone who called her "County Reg" lol. They're much more relaxed on circuit, It's quite odd actually.)

&

Master (although he secretly loves being called Judge).

Carawaystick

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

Master (although he secretly loves being called Judge).

Is it Mistress if its a woman?

FreudianSlippers

Carawaystick wrote: »

Is it Mistress if its a woman?

AFAIK the Deputy Master has been a woman and was just called Deputy Master.

Uno my Uno.

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

What is the correct mode of address when dealing officially with the following ;

1. A coroner.

2. A county registrar.

3. A master.

The answer is in the question, address them all by their titles just as you would address a judge as "judge".

Edit, the titles are not gender specific and should be used for both genders.

Victor

One way around this is to make your statement "I was driving along the road, ...", hesitate for gravitas, lower your voice and then inquire "... judge?". Most people will understand that lay parties won't necessarily have the lingo.

Uno my Uno. wrote: »

The answer is in the question, address them all by their titles just as you would address a judge as "judge".

I would largely agree. Can I take it that "county registrar" is shortened to "registrar"?

There is one judge who likes everyone to be called "lady" or "gentleman" instead of "witness", "accused", "shop keeper", "doorman" or other objective term. This results in evidence like "the gentleman punched the other gentleman and the gentleman kicked the gentleman in the shins". One then has no idea how many people were involved (between 1 and 4) and how many were violent (1 or 2) or injured (1 or 2).

Ken.

I had to go to an inquest last year and my cousin was asking is the coroner a judge and a nearby Garda said "No, the coroner is a doctor so you address him as doctor or by his first name". When we went in he introduced himself as Dr.xxxx but you can call me xxxx.

It seemed to me that the coroners court was a lot more relaxed due to the circumstances.

FreudianSlippers

ken wrote: »

I had to go to an inquest last year and my cousin was asking is the coroner a judge and a nearby Garda said "No, the coroner is a doctor so you address him as doctor or by his first name". When we went in he introduced himself as Dr.xxxx but you can call me xxxx.

It seemed to me that the coroners court was a lot more relaxed due to the circumstances.

Makes sense.

johnnyskeleton

Call everyone "mi lud" in your finest English accent and youll make a splash!

NUTLEY BOY

Thanks all.

As long as I don't call one of them "your worship" it should be OK

Jawgap

Somebody famously referred to a judge as a 'frocked cowfúcker' - history does not record what happened to them.....

......and I remember being in court once (in the UK) when a female stipe was addressed as "m'lady" - the withering look he should've turned him to stone but it turned him to jelly instead :D

FreudianSlippers

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

Thanks all.

As long as I don't call one of them "your worship" it should be OK

Don't go for "your honour" either. This aint Judge Judy! :pac:

Uno my Uno.

ken wrote: »

I had to go to an inquest last year and my cousin was asking is the coroner a judge and a nearby Garda said "No, the coroner is a doctor so you address him as doctor or by his first name". When we went in he introduced himself as Dr.xxxx but you can call me xxxx.

It seemed to me that the coroners court was a lot more relaxed due to the circumstances.

Not all Coroners are Doctors, I know that a few are Solicitors so best to clarify before addressing them as such.

234

Jawgap wrote: »

Somebody famously referred to a judge as a 'frocked cowfúcker' - history does not record what happened to them.....

......and I remember being in court once (in the UK) when a female stipe was addressed as "m'lady" - the withering look he should've turned him to stone but it turned him to jelly instead :D

Well if they we in the High Court or above then that was entirely correct. For lower courts Your Honour or Madam.

Jawgap

234 wrote: »

Well if they we in the High Court or above then that was entirely correct. For lower courts Your Honour or Madam.

Never experienced a stipe sitting anywhere except in the Magistrates Court, where usual form of address would've been sir or madam - general only solicitors used 'your worship.'

conorh91

One that always confuses me is referring to judges in the third person.

Before the Master, for example, someone will often say "Judge Irvine", "Judge Hanna" and so on.

However, once outside the courts complex, say at some conference, it's always ""Ms Justice Irvine", "Mr Justice Hanna", etc.

I assume the former is incorrect? It should always be "Mr Justice _____" when referring to a judge, whether in court or not. They are only "Judge _____" when being addressed directly.

I really do have very little to worry about at 12.20am on a Thursday night...

hullaballoo

It's Friday morning!

Referring to a judge in the third person should be, Mr/Ms Justice [name].

If people are saying, "your colleague, Judge [name]..." that is incorrect but I've never seen a judge stand over formality to the extent that they've made a big deal of it.