All Season Tyres.

Mycroft H

Any use?

I've M+S Tyres on the Suzuki and they performed well during the winter. Quite good in the wet.

And for a first, the previous owner of the C5 put winters on all round. Never seen a second hand car with them one. Usually it's a suprise to see anything but a budget brand on cheaper cars. They're good (but noisy) but on their way out. Going to replace them before the autumn.

Now before starting the yearly argument on winter tyres, I'm just wondering if the All Seasons are worth it for Irish weather if they can be gotten at the same price as a decent mid range summer tyre.


Any recommendations in Dublin? Price? 205/60/15 is the size.

deandean

I had a set of winter wheels & tyres for my last (rwd) car and I absolutely swore by them.

An interesting new development is the Michelin Cross Climate, it seems to have the best of both summer and winter tyres, I would buy a set but they don't seem to be available yet.

CiniO

I wouldn't bother with winter or all-season tyres for Irish climate.
Only conditions when they can be better than summer tyres is IMO slush or snow or ice.
Obviously depending which part of the country you live in, but I encounter such conditions extremelly seldom, so no point in driving most of the time on winter or all-season tyres on normal dry or wet road where they provide worse grip than summer tyres, just to have better grip on snow or slush which is very rare.

Lots of SUV type vehicles are leaving showrooms on the likes of Goodyear Wrangler M&S and similar from other tyre makes. So too the full fat 4WDs and pick ups.

tossy

WInters tyres are fine for Ireland, a good winter tyre is better than most of the **** ones you see on cars over here (please lets not turn this into a debate - that's for the last word heroes who post here)

I've run winter tyres a lot over the last 5 years (running them right now) and have done a good bit of research on the matter, the general consensus was all season tyres are crap,the have neither the ability to be a decent summer tyre or a decent winter tyre and you are caught in no mans land.

Sh1tbag OToole

There is no summer here and no real winter either. Better aim for tyres with good wet grip.

CJhaughey

Running Conti Wintercontact TS850 right now, no problems with excessive wear even on hot days, over 17 might feel a little more squidgy but not enough to make you want to change over to summer tyres.
Before this set I had Nokian Allweather+ and rated them very highly, great wear characteristics and good grip in the dry and in temps up to 40+ in the S. of France.
They have a new all season tyre out called Weatherproof, if I don't change the car before these get to 4mm I will buy a set of Weatherproofs and see how they work out.
I am a big fan of Nokians they work really well for me, over 20k mls per year.
Although saying that I can't fault the Conti's which have a very similar tread pattern to the Weatherproof.

Mycroft H

Any idea where to get the nokians? They sound pretty good.

CJhaughey

Mycroft H wrote: »

Any idea where to get the nokians? They sound pretty good.

I get mine from Oponeo, not many Irish suppliers of them I have found, plus I get them fitted and balanced for €40 including the waste tyres.

GTE

Mycroft H wrote: »

Any use?

I've M+S Tyres on the Suzuki and they performed well during the winter. Quite good in the wet.

And for a first, the previous owner of the C5 put winters on all round. Never seen a second hand car with them one. Usually it's a suprise to see anything but a budget brand on cheaper cars. They're good (but noisy) but on their way out. Going to replace them before the autumn.

Now before starting the yearly argument on winter tyres, I'm just wondering if the All Seasons are worth it for Irish weather if they can be gotten at the same price as a decent mid range summer tyre.


Any recommendations in Dublin? Price? 205/60/15 is the size.

I have used Hankook H730's for years on my Golf Estate. Main points:
- Much more grip than quite decent Cooper Summer tyres on a cold and dry Winter road,
- Very good in the wet, regardless of the season,
- Very competent in the snow and ice, so much so that I found it hard to get them to let go on thick powdery snow during a heavy fall a few years back,
- No issues in hot Summer conditions though probably not as sharp as Summer tyres for those who like to chuck cars into corners.

I am currently using two Falken AS200 (I think that is the model) on the front and I am happy with them and would probably use again, but I would get the Hankooks again so I can compare properly. I have two Vredestein Quadrac on the back and I hate them. I would have them on the front to wear them out quicker but they are like porridge compared to the Hankooks. Loud too. Perhaps they are an example of an All-Season tyre for more cold climates.

My summary for All-Seasons (the good models, of course): Purely from a road temp point of view, I think Ireland has the perfect climate for All-Seasons. We are slap bang in the middle of their operating range in general, where Summer tyres are beginning to if not already are past their operating range in the cold conditions. The added benefit of when there is a powdering of snow is also great.

EDIT:
From all the research I did, the M+S marking does not mean very much at all. The Snowflake mark is the one to look for as the tests required to get it are quite strict.

Zubeneschamali

deandean wrote: »

An interesting new development is the Michelin Cross Climate, it seems to have the best of both summer and winter tyres, I would buy a set but they don't seem to be available yet.

I got a pair from my regular tyre guy a month or so back. Fine so far - but no idea how they'll go on snow and ice.

Odyssey 2005

I've been using Hankook all seasons for a good few years now. I find them an excellent all round tyre. Especially effective in the rain and slush.
Wouldn't change

Odyssey 2005

I've been using Hankook all seasons for a good few years now. I find them an excellent all round tyre. Especially effective in the rain and slush.
Wouldn't change