during take off

jackstaff

Newbie question ..Wats that feeling 15-20 sec into take over when you feel likea Aeroplane is going backwards or dropping a little... I don't think it's turbulence more like thrust been lowered??

You guys are the experts thought I'd ask

JCX BXC

My last takeoff was a reduction in engine power, a sharp turn and turbulence, so I'm not really sure what I was feeling

jackstaff

Ye no that feeling off dropping were you clinch your butt only last couple seconds

JCX BXC

jackstaff wrote: »

Ye no that feeling off dropping were you clinch your butt only last couple seconds

No..........

kub

Great question OP, I always thought it was a change in the original climb rate of the plane, as in since it lifted off the runway.

jackstaff

Ah come on dont leave me hanging here...

I'll wait for an expert pilot

CúilChip

It is the flaps being raised. Flaps are extended to give more lift during take off. but are then raised as they also cause drag during flight.

jackstaff

CúilChip wrote: »

It is the flaps being raised. Flaps are extended to give more lift during take off. but are then raised as they also cause drag during flight.

See that now !! Simple answer that makes it all more understandable thus less scary !!
When I'm taking off in September with Ryanair il stand up and say chill everybody it's just the flaps ...

Alpha Romeo

It's the engines being reduced to climb thrust

Negative_G

CúilChip wrote: »

It is the flaps being raised. Flaps are extended to give more lift during take off. but are then raised as they also cause drag during flight.

Likely. Coupled with the retraction of the gear which causes massive parasite drag.

Generally the gear is raised once a positive rate of climb is confirmed by either the rad alt or altimeter or combination of both.

Once the gear is raised with the doors closed the second segment begins which sees the flaps retracted once a speed and altitude has been reached which can vary between operators.

jackstaff

The flaps been brought back seems most logical to me some great explanations guys

VG31

Am I correct in saying that the aircraft isn't actually dropping but has just slowed down so it feels like the aircraft is dropping?

shedweller

OP did you mean when the plane is still on the runway but just about to lift off?
If i'm down the back i notice a large drop as the plane rotates. Then the huge lifting sensation.
The dropping sensation is because the back half of the plane pivots down as the pilot raises the nose.

jackstaff

jackstaff wrote: »

Newbie question ..Wats that feeling 15-20 sec into take over when you feel likea Aeroplane is going backwards or dropping a little... I don't think it's turbulence more like thrust been lowered??

You guys are the experts thought I'd ask

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?111927-Long-Exposures

OP 2nd image down on that page shows you a night time takeoff, after takeoff the nose pitch is reduced to help the aircraft accelerate, as it accelerates the pilots retract the flaps on the wings that help increase lift at slower speeds, as these flaps retract back into the wings, this cause a reduction in the rate of climb that lasts for a couple of seconds and makes you feel like you are falling slightly.

The long exposure picture shows clearly the "steps" in the climb out when each stage of flap retraction happens.

Hope this helps.

jackstaff

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http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?111927-Long-Exposures

OP 2nd image down on that page shows you a night time takeoff, after takeoff the nose pitch is reduced to help the aircraft accelerate, as it accelerates the pilots retract the flaps on the wings that help increase lift at slower speeds, as these flaps retract back into the wings, this cause a reduction in the rate of climb that lasts for a couple of seconds and makes you feel like you are falling slightly.

The long exposure picture shows clearly the "steps" in the climb out when each stage of flap retraction happens.

Hope this helps.

Couldn't have been answered more clearly.. thanks a lot I understand now

Ps them long exposure shots are class

Victor

In the moment that the aircraft is changing from a steep climb to a less-steep climb, your vertical speed is slightly higher than the aircraft's vertical speed

Tenger

Deleted User wrote: »

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OP 2nd image down on that page shows you a night time takeoff,.......

The long exposure picture shows clearly the "steps" in the climb out when each stage of flap retraction happens. ...

Thats an amazing image.



I think the OP is referring to the engines thrust being scaled back after rotation. After the push into your seat the reduction in G force would seem to be stopping.


You can sometimes get a similar sensation when you climb in the cruise. The aircraft goes nose up and you feel a slight 'stop'

Yeah could be Tenger.

I've seen a few long exposures so knew there was some online that would ale it easier to understand my explanation.

Easy enough to shoot, done a few long exposures in NYC, as long as you can get rid of ambient light sources so it doesn't over expose your **** it's child's play.

eatmyshorts

[Deleted User] wrote: »

... so it doesn't over expose your **** it's child's play.

I hate over exposing my **** too!

eatmyshorts

eatmyshorts wrote: »

I hate over exposing my **** too!

LMAO having the I beside the O was never thought about when QWERTY was dreamt up, especially when trying to spell shot ;-)

cml387

In the olden days with earbuggeringly noisy engines there was a thing called noise abatement procedures, which involved a steep turning climb with the engines throttled back as much as you dared.

Tenger

I do miss those days a little.... I remember being behind Concrode at LHR and the skipper having to make a "dont be worried when our aircraft shakes, it's just Concorde"

jackstaff

Tenger wrote: »

I do miss those days a little.... I remember being behind Concrode at LHR and the skipper having to make a "dont be worried when our aircraft shakes, it's just Concorde"[/QUOTE

Would u b a pilot tenger ?

Preset No.3

jackstaff wrote: »

Tenger wrote: »

I do miss those days a little.... I remember being behind Concrode at LHR and the skipper having to make a "dont be worried when our aircraft shakes, it's just Concorde"[/QUOTE

Would u b a pilot tenger ?

How dare you!!!!!!! Tenger would be a common pilot!!!! He's far more important than that!!!! 😝😝😝