What are Houses on Farms not getting Meters

Jamie2k9

On my road my house and a few others got new meters, but no houses with a current or former farms are not getting any.  Why is this?

BTW putting meters n is a complete waste of taxpayers as we all know if IW is still around next year there is no way any Goverment will change the current set up ie. cap on fees.

The Diddakoi

All the farms I know of have there own well or group water scheme, and a septic tank, so don't need a water meter fitted.

Jamie2k9

alf66 wrote: »

All the farms I know of have there own well or group water scheme, and a septic tank, so don't need a water meter fitted.

My other home hasn't private water and was told they are not getting one because they are are farm however that stopped years ago.  I know a few others on my road where they use public water and are not getting any either and they are active farms.

Was told something about dealing with farms lather but just wanted to know exactly

blackcard

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

On my road my house and a few others got new meters, but no houses with a current or former farms are not getting any.  Why is this?

BTW putting meters n is a complete waste of taxpayers as we all know if IW is still around next year there is no way any Goverment will change the current set up ie. cap on fees.

Farmers on public water supplies would have been paying water charges for years so I imagine most of them already have meters

Jamie2k9

blackcard wrote: »

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

On my road my house and a few others got new meters, but no houses with a current or former farms are not getting any.  Why is this?

BTW putting meters n is a complete waste of taxpayers as we all know if IW is still around next year there is no way any Goverment will change the current set up ie. cap on fees.

Farmers on public water supplies would have been paying water charges for years so I imagine most of them already have meters

My house already had a meter but IW decided to replace it, I expect the same will happen with farms.

Plasid

As per 90% of dublin city properties they just haven't been able to get to all... So not just a farm thing, any possible reason to not put in a meter seems to be excuse to "phase 2,3,etc" the installation.

Irish Water: Allanah

Hi Jamie2k9,

Thanks for your query.

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

On my road my house and a few others got new meters, but no houses with a current or former farms are not getting any.  Why is this?

If a farm is used for domestic and non-domestic purposes, the customer would be a mixed use customer. These customers would be charged by their Local Authority for their non-domestic usage. The domestic component of consumption will be charged at the domestic unmetered charge. This is because the actual amount used for domestic purposes is not separately metered and cannot be measured.

Other reasons why a customer may not receive a meter may be because the outside stop valve is located in the customer's private property or it cannot be located etc.

I hope this information helps.

Kind regards,
Allanah

Biddy17

We run a business in our yard. We have been metered for years. We recd our domestic bill which works out at 260.00 for year.
The water bill for the business arrived last month and we are only being allowed 112.00 per annum for domestic use. Surely we should be allowed 130 for domestic use.

Why are we being charge extra ??    

Rgds

Irish Water: Kim

Hi Biddy17,

Thank you for your query.

Biddy17 wrote: »

We run a business in our yard. We have been metered for years. We recd our domestic bill which works out at 260.00 for year.
The water bill for the business arrived last month and we are only being allowed 112.00 per annum for domestic use. Surely we should be allowed 130 for domestic use.

Why are we being charge extra ??

A mixed use customer is a customer of Irish Water that uses the water services provided to them for both domestic and non-domestic purposes.

Domestic use is the normal use of water by a household which is managed by Irish Water. Non-domestic use is the use of water services for business or agricultural purposes which is managed by the local Water Department.

Farm houses cannot be metered, unless they have a complexly separate supply with a separate stop valve into the house.

The pricing plan has been set out by the CER and will stand until further review in 2018.

We are not able to discuss your commercial bill as this falls under the remit of your local Water Department.

I hope this information helps.

If you have any further queries, please don't hesitate to ask.

Kind regards,
Kim

Biddy17

Irish Water: Kim wrote: »

Hi Biddy17,

Thank you for your query.

Biddy17 wrote: »

We run a business in our yard. We have been metered for years. We recd our domestic bill which works out at 260.00 for year.
The water bill for the business arrived last month and we are only being allowed 112.00 per annum for domestic use. Surely we should be allowed 130 for domestic use.

Why are we being charge extra ??

A mixed use customer is a customer of Irish Water that uses the water services provided to them for both domestic and non-domestic purposes.

Domestic use is the normal use of water by a household which is managed by Irish Water. Non-domestic use is the use of water services for business or agricultural purposes which is managed by the local Water Department.

Farm houses cannot be metered, unless they have a complexly separate supply with a separate stop valve into the house.

The pricing plan has been set out by the CER and will stand until further review in 2018.

We are not able to discuss your commercial bill as this falls under the remit of your local Water Department.

I hope this information helps.

If you have any further queries, please don't hesitate to ask.

Kind regards,
Kim

Hi Kim,

I may have put the query under the wrong heading, we are not a farm but a business in town.
The water meter is on the street and it divides in the garden - so the full amount coming into us 
can be metered.

I have already contacted the local County council in question and they said they are agents for Irish Water.  
They said the amount is fixed and that is what they were told to charge.   

I think we will be cancelling our direct debits until I get a satisfactory answer as to why we pay more when we have a business bill and a domestic bill.

Many thanks,

Irish Water: Kim

Thanks for your response.

The commercial rates and allowances are still set by the local Water Department on an individual basis. It is not within Irish Water's remit to change these charges of our own volition as with all our tariff structures this would have to be approved by the CER, no such change has been made or sought by Irish Water to commercial rates to date.

If your supply splits under your garden as indicated, you will not be metered in phase one of the metering programme as the stop valve would be located on private property. Properties likes this may be eligible for metering in phase two of the programme which will commence in 2017, after the completion of phase one.

I hope this information helps.

Please don't hesitate to contact us if there is anything else you would like to ask.

Kind regards,
Kim

Biddy17

Irish Water: Kim wrote: »

Thanks for your response.

The commercial rates and allowances are still set by the local Water Department on an individual basis. It is not within Irish Water's remit to change these charges of our own volition as with all our tariff structures this would have to be approved by the CER, no such change has been made or sought by Irish Water to commercial rates to date.

If your supply splits under your garden as indicated, you will not be metered in phase one of the metering programme as the stop valve would be located on private property. Properties likes this may be eligible for metering in phase two of the programme which will commence in 2017, after the completion of phase one.

I hope this information helps.

Please don't hesitate to contact us if there is anything else you would like to ask.

Kind regards,
Kim

Hi Kim,  
Is there a different rate for commercial and domestic water or are they all the same rate?

Rgds

Biddy

Irish Water: Aaron P

Biddy17 wrote: »

Is there a different rate for commercial and domestic water or are they all the same rate?

You can find more information on domestic water charges and allowances here.

Commercial rates and allowances are set by the local Water Department. These differ from domestic charges. You can find further information by contacting your relevant Local Authority.

Kind regards,

Aaron