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CGT Losses - How to use them effectively?

  • 31-07-2015 1:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭


    Anyone any advice? Its basically tax free money (an oversimplification I know)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭daheff


    well lets say that you had some shares with a gain (currently). Lets say that gain is 5K.

    Lets say you are also carrying forward losses previously of 4K.

    You have an annual exemption of 1,200 (give or take I think).


    What you could do is dispose of your shareholding and then repurchase it straightaway.

    this would give you a taxable gain of 5k, carried forward loss of-4K and exemption of -1.2K

    Meaning you had an unused exemption of 200 EUR (5-4-1.2)**

    Any future gains on the shareholding would then be taxed from the new entry price less any exemption.


    If it was only a small loss/ large gain on holdings, you could wait until you close your position and use the carried forward losses then.



    *My understanding is that the annual exemption is used first and then carried forward losses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    daheff wrote: »
    well lets say that you had some shares with a gain (currently). Lets say that gain is 5K.

    Lets say you are also carrying forward losses previously of 4K.

    You have an annual exemption of 1,200 (give or take I think).


    What you could do is dispose of your shareholding and then repurchase it straightaway.

    this would give you a taxable gain of 5k, carried forward loss of-4K and exemption of -1.2K

    Meaning you had an unused exemption of 200 EUR (5-4-1.2)**

    Any future gains on the shareholding would then be taxed from the new entry price less any exemption.


    If it was only a small loss/ large gain on holdings, you could wait until you close your position and use the carried forward losses then.



    *My understanding is that the annual exemption is used first and then carried forward losses

    Isnt there some legislation of anti avoidance, you have to wait four weeks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭daheff


    Isnt there some legislation of anti avoidance, you have to wait four weeks?

    I'm not aware of any?

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    This is correct. It is called the Bed & Breakfast rule.
    http://www.askaboutmoney.com/threads/should-i-do-a-bed-and-breakfast.93467/

    Other Question
    If you made a CGT gain under the €1,270 exemption do you have to notify Revenue ? i.e disclose on your annual tax return ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    This is correct. It is called the Bed & Breakfast rule.
    http://www.askaboutmoney.com/threads/should-i-do-a-bed-and-breakfast.93467/

    Other Question
    If you made a CGT gain under the €1,270 exemption do you have to notify Revenue ? i.e disclose on your annual tax return ?


    Yes I'm pretty sure you do


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