Costs: Storage,server, bandwith

Cprh

Any help would be appreciated.

I'm trying to gauge roughly what ongoing costs would be on a very basic Youtube equivalent.

1000 videos uploaded per month (720) 60 seconds long. Each watched 100 times.

Total costs for storage, server and bandwidth and anything else I've missed?

Apologies, but I've tried online calculators etc with no joy

I will be taking it to a professional developer once I know I am at least in the right ball park.

Thanks - If you need more info I'll do my best.

salamanca22

Sounds like it won't be that intensive to run. Will you be converting and encoding videos on the fly or are they uploaded in the correct format? If they need processing then that will be the most costly in terms of resources.

You can definitely do it for under a hundred per month though if you go with the budget providers. Check out http://www.soyoustart.com/ie/ and http://hetzner.de

Cprh

salamanca22 wrote: »

Sounds like it won't be that intensive to run. Will you be converting and encoding videos on the fly or are they uploaded in the correct format? If they need processing then that will be the most costly in terms of resources.

You can definitely do it for under a hundred per month though if you go with the budget providers. Check out http://www.soyoustart.com/ie/ and http://hetzner.de

I'm presuming I'll have no control over what format people upload from - iphones, android phones, desktop (Apple/PC) etc so converting & encoding will probably be needed. I presume this can be done manually once the data has landed. Automation would be down the track if it takes off......

Under €100 a month sounds reasonable

Cprh

Oh and thanks - sorry, I'm away in the spreadsheets here....

salamanca22

There are plenty of turn key scripts out there that are basically clones of youtube that have automation built in. No need to build something from scratch.

Just google 'youtube clone' and you will find a few on the first page. Clipbucket comes to mind. It's been a while since I looked into them though so I am sure there are better ones out there.

Once you find the script with the most features you want then you can hire a developer to customize that to your needs rather than having to pay for a whole new system.

Cprh

salamanca22 wrote: »

There are plenty of turn key scripts out there that are basically clones of youtube that have automation built in. No need to build something from scratch.

Just google 'youtube clone' and you will find a few on the first page. Clipbucket comes to mind. It's been a while since I looked into them though so I am sure there are better ones out there.

Once you find the script with the most features you want then you can hire a developer to customize that to your needs rather than having to pay for a whole new system.

Legend - cheers. That's put me on a good path. I appreciate it.

Creamy Goodness

salamanca22 wrote: »

Sounds like it won't be that intensive to run

sorry not to be completely useless, use a calculator like so http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html

I'm very skeptical when someone says they want to build a clone of X, and someone says it shouldn't be too intensive/expensive

Cprh

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

sorry not to be completely useless, use a calculator like so http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html

I'm very skeptical when someone says they want to build a clone of X, and someone says it shouldn't be too intensive/expensive

Thanks CG, but that calculator may as well be in Japanese - I'm not tech literate. Simply looking for estimates/ball park figures. Is the other answer way off the mark?

salamanca22

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

sorry not to be completely useless, use a calculator like so http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html

I'm very skeptical when someone says they want to build a clone of X, and someone says it shouldn't be too intensive/expensive

I am talking about how intensive to run hardware wise. Having developed many tools using ffmpeg and other encoding software I know exactly how much work a server will need to do to get the job done. For what the op has said they want to do it will most definitely be the most intensive part of the website, the op's traffic they suggest is also low enough that I was confident in saying that it would not be that intensive to run and convert that many videos per month.

Graham

If you're going with a low-cost unmanaged server provider you should factor in the cost of managing/maintaining the servers and underlying O/S. Don't forget the cost of backups, off site-backups etc.

salamanca22

Graham wrote: »

If you're going with a low-cost unmanaged server provider you should factor in the cost of managing/maintaining the servers and underlying O/S. Don't forget the cost of backups, off site-backups etc.

Hetzner includes 100gb of networked backup space with all their servers.

I agree though if the OP is not familiar with managing a linux enviroment they should definitely get someone to manage their server. There are plenty of services out there that work on a subscription or a per incident basis. Again google here is your friend.


//edit Sorry, can't talk about specific hosts! My bad.

Graham

As there's a longstanding Boards ban on discussing hosting providers I wont comment on the previous post.

OP, have you considered a cloud solution? There are plenty of white-label video hosting solutions that would save you large chunks of the up-front development cost and remove the need for you to try and manage your own servers.

Much depends on your product/market. If you're pitching for a hobby site then go for the cheapest solution. If you're planning to offer a service to Fortune 500 companies, think carefully before cobbling together your own server farm.

salamanca22

Graham wrote: »

As there's a longstanding Boards ban on discussing hosting providers I wont comment on the previous post.

OP, have you considered a cloud solution? There are plenty of white-label video hosting solutions that would save you large chunks of the up-front development cost and remove the need for you to try and manage your own servers.

Much depends on your product/market. If you're pitching for a hobby site then go for the cheapest solution. If you're planning to offer a service to Fortune 500 companies, think carefully before cobbling together your own server farm.

My bad, didn't know of the rule. Have edited my post to reflect that.

devildriver

Have a look at encoding.com to gauge some pricing for the video processing:

http://www.encoding.com/pricing/

They also have a whitepaper with an obvious bias about the costs of running such an operation:

http://info.encoding.com/TCO-calculator-whitepaper.html