MH370 Found? Wing washes up near Madagascar

Paramite Pie

A wing fragment from a Boeing 777 has washed up on an island in the Indian Ocean, not far from Madagascar.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/594738/Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-wreckage-found-missing-jet

http://www.airlive.net/2015/07/breaking-piece-of-wing-found-on-la.html

Officials are already investigating and it will likely take a few days to make a match.

Honestly, this probably doesn't narrow down the Search Area for the actual wreck given the immense distance that it could have drifted in the last year, but it does seem feasible that it could have drifted from the original Search Zone. Reunion Island is on the path of the South Equatorial Current, which is met by the West Australian Current. Although it's not far from the Maldives whose residents reckoned they witnessed a low flying aircraft.

It would however rule out some of the conspiracy theories as I doubt there are ocean currents from landlocked Kazakhstan.

tomwaterford

I found this fascinating....while never believed any of the conspiracy theories....the lack of any physical part of the plane was hard to believe



Though I do hope they find the plane sometime...if not for the families....to find out what exactly happened to it

As its an awlful fear of mine that it could've been an auto pilot or something gone wonky :eek:

Paramite Pie

^^ I think the lack of physical evidence was simply a matter of the sheer size of the ocean. It's really not unusual for ocean crashes.

Finding only fragments of the plane but never the main wreck of the bodies would likely be very difficult of the families.

As for your last point Tom, i honestly think it was intentional -- like that lunatic in the Alps recently.

tomwaterford

Paramite Pie wrote: »

^^ I think the lack of physical evidence was simply a matter of the sheer size of the ocean. It's really not unusual for ocean crashes.

Finding only fragments of the plane but never the main wreck of the bodies would likely be very difficult of the families.

As for your last point Tom, i honestly think it was intentional -- like that lunatic in the Alps recently.

That is the same opinion I taught....but Jesus who'd have taught it would take so long for something to wash up

A long sucicide....must have been flying for hours by all accounts...you think he'd have wanted to get It over with quick?

Niemoj

Oh wow.

Gatling

Shock horror for the conspiracy theorists who claimed it was flown to Ukraine and made to look like it was shot down .

On a serious note though hopefully they can find the fuselage or parts of if

Grandeeod

Very early days. But will watch with interest. Hopefully it is the actual aircraft and some form of closure will come for all of us.

Massimo Cassagrande

..chucks another random lump of Boeing 777 into sea beside beach.. problem solved..

Paramite Pie

tomwaterford wrote: »

That is the same opinion I taught....but Jesus who'd have taught it would take so long for something to wash up

A long sucicide....must have been flying for hours by all accounts...you think he'd have wanted to get It over with quick?

I suppose there's so little land in the area -- how many more pieces are drifting out there.

I did read something about suicides bringing shame to their families in Malaysian culture, so it's possible he never wanted his body found. If they can't prove it's a suicide, he & his family could escape the stigma.

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

..chucks another random lump of Boeing 777 into sea beside beach.. problem solved..

I'm not surprised the theorists will question it. But that's only healthy to a certain degree.

fleet_admiral

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Atlantic Dawn

All parts for these planes have serial numbers stamped on them, there is no chance this is the plane, it would be known immediately if the numbers matched.

kona

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

All parts for these planes have serial numbers stamped on them, there is no chance this is the plane, it would be known immediately if the numbers matched.

That's if the plate is actually on the bit they found. Between all the mods etc it can take awhile to figure out bits even on a complete aircraft part on a bench In front of you with all the manuals and data bases.

MillField

It'd be great if something comes of this but it seems unlikely.

For Forks Sake

fleet_admiral wrote: »

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Sorry, we're all out of chicken jalfrezi, would you like something else?

fleet_admiral

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Sorry, we're all out of chicken jalfrezi, would you like something else?

Chicken Tikka Masala with Pilau rice and a Keema Naan please

Nib

fleet_admiral wrote: »

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What was the bonus number?

fleet_admiral

Nib wrote: »

What was the bonus number?

69

Oo er

Paramite Pie

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

All parts for these planes have serial numbers stamped on them, there is no chance this is the plane, it would be known immediately if the numbers matched.

The numbers on the plane parts is not the same as the Flight number. They have a serial number and now they have to check what numbers MH370 would've had. According to the articles I've read, it will take few days to match the numbers.

Zaph

From the headline of the article linked above:

Boeing 777 wing discovered on Indian Ocean island

The first line of the article:

Two-metre long debris discovered on a beach in the Indian Ocean, is thought to be from a Boeing 777 – the same model of plane that disappeared without trace last year.

It may well be a part of MH370, but this sort of shoddy journalism really bugs the hell out of me. Stating one thing as a fact in the headline, and then being more vague in the article once they've reeled you in. Although I shouldn't really expect much from the Express I suppose.

magick

WALT!!!!

KungPao

Yeah right, pull the other one. Obviously planted by The Man.

You can't pull the wool over my eyes, Sonny Jim.

Atlantic Dawn

Paramite Pie wrote: »

The numbers on the plane parts is not the same as the Flight number. They have a serial number and now they have to check what numbers MH370 would've had. According to the articles I've read, it will take few days to match the numbers.

Seeing as the plane is an active missing case they would hardly have to spend a day consulting a Book Of Kells type setup it would be in common knowledge amongst rescue agencies every single part of the plane.

ofcork

Sky news quoting Malaysian pm confirming it is from MH370.

Samaris

It would have been a bit surprising if it hadn't been, in truth, although I can't blame the families for being very cautious about getting their hopes up. There had been no recent other losses of that type of plane in that general area, so it certainly wasn't a wild guess.

It's still not answering things for the families, of course. But at least knowing that a part has washed up here after X amount of months means that it can be tracked back roughly through ocean currents (although storms would throw things off) and hopefully narrow down a search area for the main body of the plane. It may never be recovered, but it's a hopeful sign.

Menas

Its good that they found it. Stops some of the mad cap theories going around and gives the family hope that the wreck will be found.
I dont know if they can recover bodies at this stage..but I suppose it is possible if the fuselage did not break up.

Antar Bolaeisk

Menas wrote: »

Its good that they found it. Stops some of the mad cap theories going around and gives the family hope that the wreck will be found.
I dont know if they can recover bodies at this stage..but I suppose it is possible if the fuselage did not break up.

How do you know that They didn't plant it there just to throw people off the scent. If anything this only reinforces the theories.

The thought of recovering bodies from the bottom of the ocean after a year is a bit grim . I do still hope they find something however, in case it was a preventable problem.

Overheal

Plane debris "conclusively" from MH370

tomwaterford

Overheal wrote: »

Plane debris "conclusively" from MH370

If nothing else they should send a loada search ships to the vicinity of that island to pick up as much as possible??

Though hopefully there'll be some expert who give an reasonable estimate of where the wing floated from


As I find it amazing to figure out where it went and to find out exactly what happened

Overheal

tomwaterford wrote: »

If nothing else they should send a loada search ships to the vicinity of that island to pick up as much as possible??

Considering that the crash occurred 17 months ago, its not much to go off of, not enough to mount a huge search operation on this one island. Or even in that near vicinity. The plane part recovered is just one of an indeterminate, but surely numerous amount of debris parts all ranging in size, shape, and material composition; by itself its not evidence that we would find substantially more of the wreckage in the area of this one piece. They will take the piece into consideration, surely, to try and plot out what its journey was, and see if it can lead to high probability search areas, but thats a case for more research and in my pleb opinion not enough cause to send a flotilla to this spot (yet)

Capt'n Midnight

There's 843,617 people living on that island so plenty of eyes there already.

Drift map
http://www.adrift.org.au/map?lat=-22.8&lng=96.2&center=30&startmon=Jan

Overheal

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

There's 843,617 people living on that island so plenty of eyes there already.

Drift map
http://www.adrift.org.au/map?lat=-22.8&lng=96.2&center=30&startmon=Jan

theres 6, 7 million people in Ireland? How many of them would be arsed to go rummaging for shore wreckage?

MillField

Great that this has been confirmed. Hopefully it can shed more light on where to look for the wreckage. How long do black boxes last submerged?

LordSutch

The search is winding up in June/July (after two years) . . . .

Just One small flaperon found + a three foot section of fusalage

Capt'n Midnight

LordSutch wrote: »

The search is winding up in June/July (after two years) . . . .

Just One small flaperon found + a three foot section of fusalage

And several shipwrecks , couple of volcanoes

http://www.voanews.com/content/search-missing-malaysia-flight-shipwrecks-underwater-indian-ocean/3177152.html

Last month, an underwater sonar device, called a towfish, slammed into a 2,200-meter high mud volcano. The cable snapped and the towfish — along with 4,500 meters of cable — plummeted to the ocean floor. Experts say it is possible to recover the equipment at a later date.

It gives you some indication of how difficult the search is when you can slam into something twice as high as Carrauntoohil