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What are the time limits for Planning Enforcement

  • 29-07-2015 12:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14


    I am wondering if somebody could tell me what the time limits are with respect to Planning Enforcement.

    I have been trying to figure out if it is one of the following;

    1) 7 years after Permission has been granted.

    2) 7 years after the Permission expires.

    3) 7 years after commencement


    I have been reading (but not understanding!) the Planning & Development Act 2000 and section 160 (Injunctions in relation to unauthorised development.) states

    (6) (a) An application to the High Court or Circuit Court for an order under this section shall not be made—

    (i) in respect of a development where no permission has been granted, after the expiration of a period of 7 years from the date of the commencement of the development, or

    (ii) in respect of a development for which permission has been granted under Part III, after the expiration of a period of 7 years beginning on the expiration, as respects the permission authorising the development, of the appropriate period (within the meaning of section 40 ) or, as the case may be, of the appropriate period as extended under section 42 .


Comments

  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    2: planning expired +7years + 7x bankholidays.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    12 years in total from date of grant of permission but thats related to the conditions attached to the final grant.
    There is no time limit to the use of the property. Plan Enf can move in anytime if for example you get permission for a domestic garage and put a hair dressers in there.

    Im sitting with a Plan Enf Officer right now, get your questions in asap :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 jayo73


    BryanF wrote: »
    2: planning expired +7years + 7x bankholidays.

    Thanks Brian, that is what I was thinking but I was not sure.

    So, if a planning application was made in 2007, granted in January 2008, expires in Jan 2013 and building commenced in April 2010 then Planning Enforcement could happen anytime up to some time in Feb 2020?

    Thanks,

    Jason


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    jayo73 wrote: »
    Thanks Brian, that is what I was thinking but I was not sure.

    So, if a planning application was made in 2007, granted in January 2008, expires in Jan 2013 and building commenced in April 2010 then Planning Enforcement could happen anytime up to some time in Feb 2020?

    Thanks,

    Jason

    Depends on the nature of the breach.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    jayo73 wrote: »
    Thanks Brian, that is what I was thinking but I was not sure.

    So, if a planning application was made in 2007, granted in January 2008, expires in Jan 2013 and building commenced in April 2010 then Planning Enforcement could happen anytime up to some time in Feb 2020?

    Thanks,

    Jason
    yep
    kceire wrote: »
    Depends on the nature of the breach.
    +1
    Op care to elobrate ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    12 years and 108 days from the grant date of the planning permission or 7 years and 63 days from the date of the breach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navyddr713


    Hi, do I need planning permission to erect a wall in my rear garden and how high can I erect the wall??


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    navyddr713 wrote: »
    Hi, do I need planning permission to erect a wall in my rear garden and how high can I erect the wall??

    No planning of 2m or less. Be sure to discuss with your neighbour if it's a boundary wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,889 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    kceire wrote: »
    No planning of 2m or less. Be sure to discuss with your neighbour if it's a boundary wall.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/act/pub/0027/sec0043.html#sec43

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    If you moved the entrance to your property, during a construction job, that required planning permission. Could still get fined from enforcement over 7 years later? Or it 12 years, as you moved the entrance during a construction job, although the planning didnt include permission to move the pillar


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    newacc2015 wrote: »
    If you moved the entrance to your property, during a construction job, that required planning permission. Could still get fined from enforcement over 7 years later? Or it 12 years, as you moved the entrance during a construction job, although the planning didnt include permission to move the pillar



    Because you applied for planning and provided existing and proposed plans, the new layout would seem to contradict the granted planning permission.

    Therefore it would be my opinion that the time starts ticking from this planning application grant date. (12 years).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    kceire wrote: »
    Because you applied for planning and provided existing and proposed plans, the new layout would seem to contradict the granted planning permission.

    Therefore it would be my opinion that the time starts ticking from this planning application grant date. (12 years).

    If I had the foundations down and few dozen bricks beside it. Would it cover me from a fine from the enforcement agent? Or does the whole wall need to be there before they check? I have a feeling a neighbour might call the council about it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    newacc2015 wrote: »
    If I had the foundations down and few dozen bricks beside it. Would it cover me from a fine from the enforcement agent? Or does the whole wall need to be there before they check? I have a feeling a neighbour might call the council about it.

    Makes no difference. Your proposed plans for the planning application has not been adhered to. The neighbour has every right to lodge a complaint with planning enforcement.

    Also bear in mind, it's not a fine that they will hit you with, you will have to reinstate the door or apply for planning to keep it, both cases hitting you in the pocket I suppose.


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