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Two Peregrin Falcons shot dead in the North....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    They kill the sheep/spread TB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    ScumLord wrote: »
    They kill the sheep/spread TB.

    They really don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    ScumLord wrote: »
    They kill the sheep/spread TB.

    They are wobbers and wapists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭When the Sun Hits


    AH will need a new mod now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Uncle Ben


    Where they catholics or prods?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Dey r urr Cecil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    ScumLord wrote: »
    They kill the sheep/spread TB.

    Ah well that's ok so....jesus wept!

    They're wild animals...if and when they do take livestock it's just following their natural instincts, it's no reason to kill them.

    As for the TB....is that not badgers and/or cattle....not that it's any reason to kill any animal of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Ah well that's ok so....jesus wept!

    They're wild animals...if and when they do take livestock it's just following their natural instincts, it's no reason to kill them.
    And sure the farmers are just following their instinct to shoot things that spread TB and eat sheep. Surely the poor sheepeen deserves to be able to eat some grass without being shnaped up into the sky by one of these flying murder birds.
    As for the TB....is that not badgers and/or cattle....not that it's any reason to kill any animal of course.
    Why wouldn't it be a reason to kill an animal? Do you like TB?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Dey tuk aarrr flegs!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    It is very unusual for TB to be passed to humans from wild peregrine falcons. The ones released in Ireland are fairly unlikely to have it as is, since they have recently been bred in captivity and released to breed. As it happens, the TB bacterium can only infect a person with a suppressed immune system anyway, so really, you'd need a remarkable set of circumstances for an Irish/Northern Irish wild falcon to cause illness in a human. We are far more likely to suffer from having pet cats, and I don't reckon anyone would agree on shooting all of them.

    A peregrine falcon is also quite unlikely to kill a sheep. Squirrels, smaller birds, rats, rabbits, yes. Sheep are tricky, as the bird is likely to be injured herself striking, particularly if the sheep doesn't die at once. Golden eagles are bigger and have been known to kill sheep and goats, but they have a different method of hunting. Peregrines are actually fairly small.

    Mind you, there have been recent cases of ravens and seagulls banding together (within their own flocks that is, there's no The Birds scenario yet) to kill sheep in Dingle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Samaris wrote: »
    A peregrine falcon is also quite unlikely to kill a sheep. Squirrels, smaller birds, rats, rabbits, yes. Sheep are tricky, as the bird is likely to be injured herself striking, particularly if the sheep doesn't die at once.
    Sure sheep are only made out of wool, they'd be no problem for any bird to eat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,885 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/psni-appeal-to-find-the-shooter-of-two-endangered-falcons-1.2299760

    Yet more senseless violence against our country's wildlife.

    Why can people not just leave this beautiful creatures in peace? I do understand that they have been known to take livestock but surely that is the fault of the farmer for intruding on their habitat, not the other way around?

    Peregrine falcons are absolutely no danger to livestock, unless the farmer is raising pigeons

    These falcons pray mostly on other birds and sometimes on small mammals like mice

    The ignorant arseholes who shot these birds should be deeply ashamed of themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Sure sheep are only made out of wool, they'd be no problem for any bird to eat.

    True, tasty, nutritious wool! :D

    Actually, the other reason is that the falcon could kill a sheep (somehow) and would only get a very small return in the amount she could eat before the scavengers come and drive her off. It's just not worth it to her, so falcons tend to stick the small animals I mentioned before.

    In short, neither of your reasons hold out under investigation, I'm afraid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    "A Peregrin Falcon's got my baby"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Samaris wrote: »
    True, tasty, nutritious wool! :D

    Actually, the other reason is that the falcon could kill a sheep (somehow) and would only get a very small return in the amount she could eat before the scavengers come and drive her off. It's just not worth it to her, so falcons tend to stick the small animals I mentioned before.

    In short, neither of your reasons hold out under investigation, I'm afraid.
    You're overlooking the fact falcons are notorious assholes. They kill sheep just to see the pain in their children's eyes. They have no interest in eating them, they prefer chicken balls from the Chinese anyway. They can buy as many of them as they like with all the funding they're getting from the state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,885 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    ScumLord wrote: »
    You're overlooking the fact falcons are notorious assholes. They kill sheep just to see the pain in their children's eyes. They have no interest in eating them, they prefer chicken balls from the Chinese anyway. They can buy as many of them as they like with all the funding they're getting from the state.

    A one winged falcon killed my wife and framed me for the murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    ScumLord wrote: »
    You're overlooking the fact falcons are notorious assholes. They kill sheep just to see the pain in their children's eyes. They have no interest in eating them, they prefer chicken balls from the Chinese anyway. They can buy as many of them as they like with all the funding they're getting from the state.

    A fålcøn once bit my sister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Wexicanfan


    Cant blame them for taking lambs.

    ever had lamb chops?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    We're they Protestant or Catholic Falcons?


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "A Peregrin Falcon's got my baby"
    "My Hubby Left Me For a Peregrine Falcon"

    "Premiership Footballer's All-Night Hotel Romp With Peregrine Falcon"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    "peregrine falcon sex scandal.. "He spread TB all over my face" mother of 12 lambs.."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    gramar wrote: »
    They are wobbers and wapists.

    AND PICKPOCKETS!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Son0vagun


    A Peregrine Falcon once swooped down and stole my Chips, I kid you not, Chips was my 3year old German Shepard.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    The shooters should be easy to find. Sloping forehead, bleeding knuckles from dragging them on the ground and drooling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    The shooters should be easy to find. Sloping forehead, bleeding knuckles from dragging them on the ground and drooling.

    But what happens when they're all like that up there?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's a peregrin falco, a do and a lio killed in recent days.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Yet another glorious episode in the long and glittering history of mistreatment of animals in this country. We'll put the dead falcon besides the thousands upon thousands of horses that were starved to death in fields, slaughtered and put into Lasagne and exported abroad. Top off the heap with what must be hundreds of thousands of dead cats and dogs and you have a mile high monument of how the Irish treat their animals. We sure hate animals on this green isle of ours.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    AH will need a new mod now.

    It's okay, I'm alive. Close call though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Peregrine wrote: »
    It's okay, I'm alive. Close call though.

    There he is! Get him!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭wildlifeboy


    because this is AH I am biting my tongue but these comments about TB and sheep are ridiculous, Peregrines have never been known to take anything bigger than a rabbit and they do not pass on tb to anything. lets face the facts that these were shot for some inbred form of sport an nothing else. it wasn't to protect any livestock, they aren't golden eagles or white tailed sea eagles. theyre smaller than a pigeon for gods sake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    because this is AH I am biting my tongue but these comments about TB and sheep are ridiculous, Peregrines have never been known to take anything bigger than a rabbit and they do not pass on tb to anything. lets face the facts that these were shot for some inbred form of sport an nothing else. it wasn't to protect any livestock, they aren't golden eagles or white tailed sea eagles. theyre smaller than a pigeon for gods sake

    Pigeons are probably a clue to this. People who race pigeons don't like Peregrins.

    There is probably a few fellas reading this & telling their mates that Peregrins cause TB & kill sheep. Even worse they kill fairies.


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