Friend has a Tampico plane based in Ireland - where to advertise it ?

worded

Hi,

friend wants to sell his plane in Ire
Where to advertise?

Thanks

Dr.Rieux

Is it yellow by any chance? EI-BYG?

worded

Please see attached pics of plane

pepe the prawn

He could try contacting the flying schools/clubs and putting the word out there, maybe ask to put details of it on their notice boards

martinsvi

pepe the prawn wrote: »

He could try contacting the flying schools/clubs and putting the word out there, maybe ask to put details of it on their notice boards

I don't think schools will have much interest in TP9, it's a touring aircraft, pretty big comparing to your C150s.. also this particular model is equipped with constant speed prop..

looks like your friend has already placed an add - http://www.planecheck.com/index.asp?ent=da&id=26755&cor=y

he can also try afors.com, but really your friend needs to zero-time the engine and sort out the annual/arc.. Lycomings are due overhaul at 2000 hours so it will probably need some investment before it goes

pepe the prawn

martinsvi wrote: »

I don't think schools will have much interest in TP9, it's a touring aircraft, pretty big comparing to your C150s.. also this particular model is equipped with constant speed prop..

looks like your friend has already placed an add - http://www.planecheck.com/index.asp?ent=da&id=26755&cor=y

he can also try afors.com, but really your friend needs to zero-time the engine and sort out the annual/arc.. Lycomings are due overhaul at 2000 hours so it will probably need some investment before it goes

Schools would have little interest for training but may do as a cheap hour builder for students progressing to CPL. Past students may also have interest, and the best way to get word out to them would be to put it on notice boards in club rooms etc.

martinsvi

pepe the prawn wrote: »

Schools would have little interest for training but may do as a cheap hour builder for students progressing to CPL. Past students may also have interest, and the best way to get word out to them would be to put it on notice boards in club rooms etc.

TP9 eats something like 10 gal an hour, there's nothing cheap about it. It's meant for going places, not twirling around your county borders.. but if you want to go places, you need your paper work in order, thus my suggestion to get it done

I agree on the second part, yeah sure, getting the word out is always helpful. But currently with engine out of it's hours your market is very limited to either risk takers or morons.

pepe the prawn

martinsvi wrote: »

TP9 eats something like 10 gal an hour, there's nothing cheap about it. It's meant for going places, not twirling around your county borders.. but if you want to go places, you need your paper work in order, thus my suggestion to get it done

I agree on the second part, yeah sure, getting the word out is always helpful. But currently with engine out of it's hours your market is very limited to either risk takers or morons.

I never said anything about the running costs being cheap. It's €17,500 asking price coupled with circa €20,000 for engine overhaul and new annual brings it to less than 40k for a ready to go aircraft, it has a VOR and ADF which is a handy addition for anyone looking to build hours in a semi-complex environment.

If four people were to pitch together and buy this aircraft it would be a very cost effective entry step to ownership and access to a machine that would offer an ideal solution to hour builders and ppl holders looking for something to travel both within and outside the borders of Ireland in. Yes 10 gals per hour isn't friendly, but for anyone looking to progress to CPL it could be an ideal stepping stone.

Go out to buy a 182 or arrow and what you will get for €40,000 won't be impressive, that's if you could find one worth buying at all.

martinsvi

pepe the prawn wrote: »

I never said anything about the running costs being cheap.

sorry, you said cheap hour builder, how was I supposed to know that you didn't mean running costs which are kind of essential when you need 150+ hours for CPL

pepe the prawn wrote: »

It's €17,500 asking price coupled with circa €20,000 for engine overhaul and new annual brings it to less than 40k for a ready to go aircraft,

that is if there's no hidden defects.. selling this as a "ready-to-go" aircraft is exactly what I'm suggesting.

pepe the prawn wrote: »

it has a VOR and ADF

where does it say that? what state are they in? VOR's are a bunch of sensitive instruments, on your average 20+ year old spam can it may tune in but actual tracking might be impossible due to lack of sensitivity and selectivity of the instruments.. if they have been replaced or serviced it would be nice to know

pepe the prawn wrote: »

Go out to buy a 182 or arrow and what you will get for €40,000 won't be impressive, that's if you could find one worth buying at all.

well 182 and arrow are slightly different category.. I'm not sure what tp9 with a constant speed prop cruises at but variable does some 100kt (despite whatever manual says), I will hazard guess that constant speed prop could add some 20kt at best, whilst your arrow or c182 generally have much bigger engines and should be able to do 140kt+ as a standard..

anyway to avoid a thread drift - all I'm saying is - get that plane fixed and sell it for 40k, I'm sure it will be much easier to sell it at that state than selling it cheapo like a cat in a bag.. the add doesn't mention if there are any defects or have all ADs been implemented, we can only assume that there's something preventing the owner to go the full way.. it's kind of like you don't really want to buy a fancy car without NCT... yeah sure, you can do it yourself, but you never know what might come out of it..

FWVT

I've a few hours in that exact plane from when it was based at Weston. Very comfortable, I think around 115 kt cruise.

pepe the prawn

martinsvi wrote: »

sorry, you said cheap hour builder, how was I supposed to know that you didn't mean running costs which are kind of essential when you need 150+ hours for CPL

that is if there's no hidden defects.. selling this as a "ready-to-go" aircraft is exactly what I'm suggesting.
where does it say that? what state are they in? VOR's are a bunch of sensitive instruments, on your average 20+ year old spam can it may tune in but actual tracking might be impossible due to lack of sensitivity and selectivity of the instruments.. if they have been replaced or serviced it would be nice to know



well 182 and arrow are slightly different category.. I'm not sure what tp9 with a constant speed prop cruises at but variable does some 100kt (despite whatever manual says), I will hazard guess that constant speed prop could add some 20kt at best, whilst your arrow or c182 generally have much bigger engines and should be able to do 140kt+ as a standard..

anyway to avoid a thread drift - all I'm saying is - get that plane fixed and sell it for 40k, I'm sure it will be much easier to sell it at that state than selling it cheapo like a cat in a bag.. the add doesn't mention if there are any defects or have all ADs been implemented, we can only assume that there's something preventing the owner to go the full way.. it's kind of like you don't really want to buy a fancy car without NCT... yeah sure, you can do it yourself, but you never know what might come out of it..

Christ, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

Buying any aircraft is a potential minefield, they can present new faults at any time. For the asking price it's worth a punt to a group looking for a cost effective entry to aircraft ownership. Yes there are probably better aircraft out there but for €17,500 asking price it's a tempting proposition.

It may not be the cheapest to run, but the capital required isn't going to break the bank for a syndicate.

Xpro

That would be an ideal plane if someone had time to do it up, zero time it,put a bit of love into it, etc.

Sure ffs what else can you but out there less then for 60 that isnt a banger, with hidden history's all over it.( except microlights)

lycoming 360 engine's arent that heavy on juice anyways.