US SAM flight in Shannon

donutheadhomer

Bad photo in bad light

knucklehead6

donutheadhomer wrote: »

Bad photo in bad light

That's not Air Force one

Preset No.3

Air Force 2 and not even necessarily the VP either. There's a number of those modified 757 in operation for things like advance teams, Secetary of State. Still, nice sight anyway. Stopping for fuel, 200 smokes and a bottle of Jameson!

donutheadhomer

Wishful thinking

knucklehead6

knucklehead6 wrote: »

That's not Air Force one

Technically it could be, correct it's not the 747 but anything POTUS flies on is AF1 except for Marine 1.

Still it's not AF1 it's a SAM flight.

BeardySi

nvm... late night dimness!

gordongekko

donutheadhomer wrote: »

Wishful thinking

Only 100 smokes???

donutheadhomer

customs said no ones come my way yet anyway

Second Toughest in_the Freshers

donutheadhomer wrote: »

Wishful thinking

no Indiana Jones so?

_dof_

Deleted User wrote: »

anything POTUS flies on is AF1 except for Marine 1.

Not exactly. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_of_the_President_of_the_United_States

"Since 1953 whenever the President is on board a military flight its call sign is the name of the armed service followed by the word "One". Thus Air Force One, Army One, Coast Guard One, Marine One and Navy One.[1] However, only the Air Force and Marine Corps actively maintain aircraft for the Commander-in-Chief, and as of March 27, 2010, the President has not flown in a Coast Guard aircraft. If the President uses a civilian airplane it is designated Executive One."

If it's the Vice President, then the call signs would be the same except "Two" instead of "One".

arubex

Good catch!

09-0017 SAM97

The C-32A like that one are fairly mundane, the initial batch were acquired from the Renton commercial production line and topped-up with some second-hand ones from airlines. They have basic onboard command & control facilities, as does anything with a SAM callsign.

The C-32B, of which there are only two or three, are much-modified ex-airliners and have a refuelling receptable. They are used by the joint-agencies FEST to do 'stuff' around the World. Quite often appear on Planefinder with JINGO or EMMA callsigns routing through Stuttgart, but not shown on FR24. All-white livery with tiny USAF serials, or sometimes no marks at all.

donutheadhomer

it was gone this morning anyway

coylemj

_dof_ wrote: »

Not exactly. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_of_the_President_of_the_United_States

"Since 1953 whenever the President is on board a military flight its call sign is the name of the armed service followed by the word "One". Thus Air Force One, Army One, Coast Guard One, Marine One and Navy One.[1] However, only the Air Force and Marine Corps actively maintain aircraft for the Commander-in-Chief, and as of March 27, 2010, the President has not flown in a Coast Guard aircraft. If the President uses a civilian airplane it is designated Executive One."

If it's the Vice President, then the call signs would be the same except "Two" instead of "One".

You might as well have written that yourself and then added it to Wikipedia.

In other words.... Wikipedia is not an authoritative source for anything.

knucklehead6

Great... the thread title change makes my post look totally out of place!! :rolleyes: :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Storm 10

We could be seeing plenty of Sam aircraft in Shannon next year as according to todays Galway City Tribune, President Obama wants to visit Galway before he finishes as President and stand and talk to the people of Galway like his hero John F Kennedy did in Eyre Square, St Patricks day is pencilled in for the visit.

http://connachttribune.ie/obama-could-be-set-for-historic-eyre-square-speech-044/

Caovyn Lineah

They are a fairly regular visitor.

_dof_

coylemj wrote: »

You might as well have written that yourself and then added it to Wikipedia.

In other words.... Wikipedia is not an authoritative source for anything.

sigh.... useful comment, thanks.

You do realise that most wikipedia statements of fact include citation to some supporting material. In this case it links to an FAA document, so you can probably trust them....

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/ATC.pdf

Or a quick google search found a link to a book extract "Air Force One" by Robert F. Dorr