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I Recieved a Bill, but I Never Registered ?

  • 28-07-2015 12:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭


    Hello,

    Our household received a bill, but we never registered as a 'customer' of Irish Water.


    How did this happen?

    As we have ZERO intention of becoming a 'customer' of this billing organisation (until the future ownership of the Irish peoples water supply is put beyond doubt).

    My Question is:
    How do we have our details removed from your database?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Icepick


    As we have ZERO intention of becoming a 'customer' of this billing organisation
    Are you going to disconnect from the water supply and discharge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭galwayfellaBETA


    Icepick wrote: »
    As we have ZERO intention of becoming a 'customer' of this billing organisation
    Are you going to disconnect from the water supply and discharge?
    Collectively, my wife and I have been paying for our water infrastructure, through our taxes for 40 years.
    So I ask you, why should I 'disconnect' ?

    I'm still waiting for an answer as to how we can have our details removed from Irish Waters' database?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Icepick wrote: »
    As we have ZERO intention of becoming a 'customer' of this billing organisation
    Are you going to disconnect from the water supply and discharge?
    Collectively, my wife and I have been paying for our water infrastructure, through our taxes for 40 years.  
    So I ask you, why should I 'disconnect' ?  
    You used that water, its gone. The infrastructure is crumbling because enough wasnt spent on it. 


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭magentis


    So how many of us will it take to pay the head honchos 300k+ salary package?


  • Company Representative Posts: 485 Verified rep Irish Water: Allanah


    Hi galwayfellaBETA,

    Thanks for your query.
    Hello,

    Our household received a bill, but we never registered as a 'customer' of Irish Water.

    How did this happen?

    My Question is:
    How do we have our details removed from your database?

    You are a customer of Irish Water if your household is supplied from the public water main for water supply and/or uses a public sewer for wastewater removal and treatment.

    Should you have any further queries, please feel free to ask.

    Kind regards,
    Allanah


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭galwayfellaBETA


    Hi galwayfellaBETA,

    Thanks for your query.
    Hello,

    Our household received a bill, but we never registered as a 'customer' of Irish Water.

    How did this happen?

    My Question is:
    How do we have our details removed from your database?

    You are a customer of Irish Water if your household is supplied from the public water main for water supply and/or uses a public sewer for wastewater removal and treatment.

    Should you have any further queries, please feel free to ask.

    Kind regards,
    Allanah
    I beg your pardon, I am NOT a customer of 'Irish Water' and NEVER will be while the threat of privatisation hangs in the air!

    Any assertions to differ will require proof that I consented to be a customer!

    Please tell me how I can have my name removed from your database.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭overshoot


    Collectively, my wife and I have been paying for our water infrastructure, through our taxes for 40 years.
    So I ask you, why should I 'disconnect' ?
    ?

    I keep seeing this pop up... Question, why should someone who lives in the countryside, have to pay for their own well/group water scheme/effluent treatment system AND "collectively" have to pay for treated water piped to your door and possibly another pipe removing it?
    They paid for their own water, why should they pay for yours too? What is "fair and equitable" about that? (a term used in the legislation removing water charges in 97... So 40years of taxes?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭galwayfellaBETA


    overshoot wrote: »
    Collectively, my wife and I have been paying for our water infrastructure, through our taxes for 40 years.  
    So I ask you, why should I 'disconnect' ?  
    ?

    I keep seeing this pop up... Question, why should someone who lives in the countryside, has has to pay for their own well/group water scheme/effluent treatment system AND "collectively" have to pay for treated water piped to your door and possibly another pipe removing it? They paid for their own water, why should they pay for yours too? What is "fair and equitable" about that? (a term used in the legislation removing water charges in 97... So 40years of taxes?)
    I'd support your right to have water provided by the state, it wrong that it isn't.

    I have no problem for paying a metered usage charge, but I'll go to hell before supporting this thinly veiled attempt to pass our nations water supply in to 'for profit' hands.  Google 'water poverty' and see how that works off for the less well off in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭overshoot


    overshoot wrote: »
    Collectively, my wife and I have been paying for our water infrastructure, through our taxes for 40 years.
    So I ask you, why should I 'disconnect' ?
    ?

    I keep seeing this pop up... Question, why should someone who lives in the countryside, has has to pay for their own well/group water scheme/effluent treatment system AND "collectively" have to pay for treated water piped to your door and possibly another pipe removing it? They paid for their own water, why should they pay for yours too? What is "fair and equitable" about that? (a term used in the legislation removing water charges in 97... So 40years of taxes?)
    I'd support your right to have water provided by the state, it wrong that it isn't.

    I have no problem for paying a metered usage charge, but I'll go to hell before supporting this thinly veiled attempt to pass our nations water supply in to 'for profit' hands. Google 'water poverty' and see how that works off for the less well off in the world.
    Wrong? i dont really think so. It will cost 5 figures to install water & effluent services (on site) if you live in the middle of nowhere. Multiples of this to install a piped mains system. Then there is maintenance, or even replacement costs. Even being optimistic thats 20 years before payback vs IW, assuming nothing goes wrong.

    I dont think that would be fair to ask for others to subsidise this, especially if you aren't immediately (& currently) tied to the area (farm being the obvious example), choosing to live there. By the same logic I dont think its fair for rural dwellers to subsidise those who have mains connections through their motor tax. Pay your own way works well in my opinion. There's always water harvesting... if you think its better value than IW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭galwayfellaBETA


    overshoot wrote: »
    overshoot wrote: »
    Collectively, my wife and I have been paying for our water infrastructure, through our taxes for 40 years.
    So I ask you, why should I 'disconnect' ?
    ?

    I keep seeing this pop up... Question, why should someone who lives in the countryside, has has to pay for their own well/group water scheme/effluent treatment system AND "collectively" have to pay for treated water piped to your door and possibly another pipe removing it? They paid for their own water, why should they pay for yours too? What is "fair and equitable" about that? (a term used in the legislation removing water charges in 97... So 40years of taxes?)
    I'd support your right to have water provided by the state, it wrong that it isn't.

    I have no problem for paying a metered usage charge, but I'll go to hell before supporting this thinly veiled attempt to pass our nations water supply in to 'for profit' hands. Google 'water poverty' and see how that works off for the less well off in the world.
    Wrong? i dont really think so. It will cost 5 figures to install water & effluent services (on site) if you live in the middle of nowhere. Multiples of this to install a piped mains system. Then there is maintenance, or even replacement costs. Even being optimistic thats 20 years before payback vs IW, assuming nothing goes wrong.

    I dont think that would be fair to ask for others to subsidise this, especially if you aren't immediately (& currently) tied to the area (farm being the obvious example), choosing to live there. By the same logic I dont think its fair for rural dwellers to subsidise those who have mains connections through their motor tax. Pay your own way works well in my opinion. There's always water harvesting... if you think its better value than IW
    Again, I have no problem with metered billing.

    My objection is to the completed mess that is Irish water and in my opinion, its primary objective, the privatisation of this shared resource.

    No one can live without water, we get far to much rain in this country to even allow the faintest risk that some of our fellow citizens could fall in to water poverty.

    Still waiting to see how I can have my name removed from Irish Waters Database.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Magnate


    Still waiting to see how I can have my name removed from Irish Waters Database.
    Disconnect from the public mains and sewer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    Magnate wrote: »
    Still waiting to see how I can have my name removed from Irish Waters Database.
    Disconnect from the public mains and sewer.
    Already am... didn't work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    They sent me a bill as well which had my name and address - but which then said I was unregistered and a metered bill for an incorrect amount for a period before I'd even moved in.

    I duly called them and after their refusal to tell me where specifically they got my details (not the generic copy/paste response I've seen here) I told them that I wouldn't be paying it anyway as I wasn't living here then - and certainly not giving them DD access to my accounts - but to feel free to reissue another and I'd consider it (depending on what happens politically with this fiasco)

    I then received THREE letters together a few days later - two addressed to me telling me that they've been informed that I'm a tenant at the property and asking me to register with them, the third addressed to THE OCCUPANT with the same incorrect bill they'd sent in the first place.

    And this shower were chosen for their "expertise" in these matters? I should seriously PAY for this incompetence? Of course with the Eurostat verdict this week and an election on the horizon, I don't think many will be paying the next bill until it's clear where the goalposts are shifted to this time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭galwayfellaBETA


    Magnate wrote: »
    Still waiting to see how I can have my name removed from Irish Waters Database.
    Disconnect from the public mains and sewer.
    Not going to happen buddy!   Me, my parents and my grandparents have paid for and OWN this infrastructure.   I'm willing to continue to pay more tax that that I am currently already doing to see it upgraded.  But hell will freeze over before I pay into or support this toxic, treacherous attempt to hand this national resource into private 'for profit' hands.

    Can Irish Water Please let me know how I can have my name removed from their database?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Magnate wrote: »
    Still waiting to see how I can have my name removed from Irish Waters Database.
    Disconnect from the public mains and sewer.
    Not going to happen buddy!   Me, my parents and my grandparents have paid for and OWN this infrastructure.   I'm willing to continue to pay more tax that that I am currently already doing to see it upgraded.  But hell will freeze over before I pay into or support this toxic, treacherous attempt to hand this national resource into private 'for profit' hands.

    Can Irish Water Please let me know how I can have my name removed from their database?
    you dont own the infrastructure. Irish water does. Its a state owned organisation and is not going to be sold to anyone. Just pay your bill before they add fines and garnish your wages. If you dont like the service disconnect from the public water supply. 


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    I do recall reading there is a eu directive stating irish water will need to be privatised .. Doesnt effect me either way


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