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Kincora Abuse Investigation

  • 27-07-2015 7:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭


    Labour push for Kincora abuse to be investigated in paedophile inquiry

    Labour has backed the victims of a paedophile ring operating in an east Belfast care home who want the scandal investigated as part of the wider Westminster inquiry into child abusers at the heart of the British establishment.

    Despite the disclosure of secret state files on abuse allegations at the notorious Kincora Belfast boys’ home, it will not prompt a government rethink on its exclusion from a UK-wide abuse inquiry.

    So why do they want to exclude Kincora from the investigation???

    Would it be because there has been a member of the royal family linked to the home??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭pueblo


    http://www.rt.com/uk/243297-royal-pedophile-investigation-allegations/

    Link to an RT article claiming that a member of the royal family was part of a paedophile ring being investigated by police.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭pueblo


    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/oct/29/jimmy-savile-behaviour-prince-charles
    Jimmy Savile caused concern with behaviour on visits to Prince Charles

    A former senior royal aide has revealed that Jimmy Savile's behaviour when he visited Prince Charles's official home at St James' Palace was a cause for "concern and suspicion".

    Dickie Arbiter, who handled media relations for the Prince and Princess of Wales while spokesman for the Queen between 1988 and 2000, said the suspected paedophile TV presenter used to rub his lips up the arms of Prince Charles's young female assistants as a greeting.

    Seriously?? and the roayl family had no inkling what 'access all areas' paedophile Jimmy Savile was up to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭pueblo


    "I was raising in parliament against Mrs Thatcher the Kincora Boys Home where boys were being abused and MI5 was filming it because they were
    hoping to be able to blackmail senior politicians in Northern Ireland.

    They were hoping to catch one of Ian Paisley's MP's - and they never did
    - and give themselves some leverage. The truth is there's been an awful
    lot of covering up of paedophiles and paedophile rings for decades and
    decades."

    Ken Livingstone from an interview with David Mellor.
    https://soundcloud.com/gypsumfantastic23/ken-mi5

    “Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.”
    Mark Twain

    You could not make this stuff up, and if you did (as a Hollywood movie script for example) people would tell you you were mad and that it was totally unbelievable... (hmm sounds familiar :D)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    pueblo wrote: »


    Seriously?? and the roayl family had no inkling what 'access all areas' paedophile Jimmy Savile was up to?

    Paedophile Mason ran lodge set up for GCHQ



    ONE OF Britain’s most influential paedophiles was the head of a Masonic lodge founded and frequented by GCHQ spies.

    Keith Harding, former membership secretary of the Paedophile Information Exchange (Pie) was made Worshipful Master of the Mercurius Lodge in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, in 2011.

    The child molester, who died last summer, presided over ceremonies and rituals from an ornate throne.

    Harding was convicted of an indecent assault against four children aged eight and nine in 1958 and classified a Schedule-1 offender, which meant the offence remained on his criminal record all his life.

    His name was also on a list of about 400 Pie members seized by police in 1984, the year the organisation disbanded.

    The Sunday Express revealed earlier this month how Harding met MPs Cyril Smith and Leon Brittan in the 1980s when he ran a north London antiques store.

    Thirty-five years ago he appeared alongside paedophile television presenter Jimmy Savile in a Christmas special of Jim’ll Fix It.

    The lodge boasts of its Government Communications Headquarters heritage on its website.

    A source close to Harding revealed: “The Mercurius Lodge is known as the Spies Lodge because it was set up by GCHQ and over the years many intelligence officers have become members.

    “These are people trained to find out sensitive information and yet none of them had any idea of Keith’s background and past convictions.

    “They even voted him the highest honour by making him Worshipful Master.

    “Keith felt the Freemasons were somewhere he finally belonged, he called them his “brotherhood”.

    “When he died last year, they arranged his funeral and made sure the ceremony started at midday because the time apparently has significance within Masonic ritual.”

    Spies displaced from London and Bletchley Park in Buckinghamshire, where the German wartime Enigma code was cracked, set up the Mercurius Lodge in 1957.



    Harding ran the Mechanical Music Museum 10 miles away in Northleach after moving from London in 1987.

    In 2013, he organised a trip to the museum for Freemasons and their families.

    A photograph shows Harding wearing a Masonic apron, collar and medals during a ceremony a couple of years ago.

    The Mercurius Lodge last night declined to comment.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/579523/Paedophile-Mason-lodge-GCHQ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭pueblo


    I have taken some criticism from Southern Irish people on Twitter, when revealing the relationship between Special Branch, MI5, IRA and Sinn Fein raping children or blackmailing VIP paedophiles at places like Kincora boys home in Northern Ireland and/or Birr Castle in Southern Island, where Kincora boys were taken to satisfy IRA members.

    The point I'm trying to make is that the intelligence services; groom politicians, run the terrorists, control the paedophiles and anything else that's necessary to keep the control matrix in place.

    To add another dimension to the darkness, the international intelligence services Mossad, CIA, MI6 and DGSE try to blackmail each other if they can.

    That's how power works.
    http://charlesfrith.blogspot.ie/2013/10/vip-paedo-abuse-at-elm-guest-house.html

    Is this indeed how power works??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭pueblo


    Lord Mountbatten (a good friend of Jimmy Savile) has been linked to Kincora.....as have some senior IRA/Republican members...

    Could there be a connection with Mountbatten's death, Kincora and the IRA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    The facts are shocking enough without having to talk about conspiracy theories.

    We know that William McGrath, the housemaster of Kincora Boys' Home, was for a time chaplain of the Fernhill Orange Lodge and he was recruited to smuggle Bibles and religious tracts in Eastern Europe by British intelligence and that his handler was none other than Anthony Blunt, one of the infamous Cambridge Five KGB, traitors who was introduced to him through mutual friend Sir Knox Cunningham. McGrath was also close to John McKeague, the sinister homosexual rapist and serial killer who founded the Red Hand Commandoes who frequented Kincora and abused young boys. McGrath was an admirer of Ian Paisley and was involved with him in the Ulster Constitution Defence Committee and two of his kids were married in Paisley's Martyrs Memorial Church.

    Read into that what you will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭pueblo


    The facts are shocking enough without having to talk about conspiracy theories.

    Yes,about Blunt... grim.

    The facts are shocking enough. You are correct, and many people will refuse to 'deal with' the facts.

    When that first shock has settled I suggest trying to prepare to process the huge 'after shock' namely that all these offences were committed not just by sick paedophiles, but by an organised ring, a group of connected individuals who conspired to..

    - Use their power and position to 'borrow' children (and in some cases it seems the children were simply disappeared after)
    - And then abuse/rape, torture, exploit and degrade these young children for their own pleasure.

    There is much still to be uncovered I believe. Whether this will happen efficiently and expediently is a matter of some doubt but it is only through talking about it and recognizing it that we can begin change, it's all of us.


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