Sindo/Indo, RTE, other national media? One and the same?

BuilderPlumber

I often wonder why is it all the same people are 'forced' on us via all outlets of the media. Certain individuals are put onto pedestals for the public to admire and worship as some kind of gods. They appear on our chatshows and then appear on our papers the following day. More present programmes and then write articles in newspapers. They cover a large range: chefs, political commentators, solicitors, boyfolk singers, boyband singers, boyband managers (or a certain manager!), jockeys (or a certain one with the same surname as the boyband manager!), and models. They seem everywhere you turn.

Clearly, with the same staff in organisations like RTE and Independent Newspapers, there is some sort of an alliance or joint ownership of various parts of our media. Are the above financing them in return for part ownership and free promotion? Or are our media outlets owned outright by these people or their agents?

Something is going on for certain and it is boring to see the same people everywhere. Turn on the TV and you get the same chef you read about in last Sunday's paper. Switch channels and there is some overhyped boyfolk singer on Glor Tire. Change again, and you have some reality TV contest with the same old managers and promoters. Pick up the paper, and we read about what one of ANY of the above does in their spare time. Incest seems to be alive and well in our closed shop media.

nullzero

It's a conspiracy.

You do know that Twink secretly runs Ireland from her Knocklyon command center don't you? How else does she end up on every chat show in the country when she has never had anything to say to interest anyone in the country?

Well, the Brendan O'Connor moron is given a job on RTÉ simply because they want positive coverage in the Sunday Independent/Independent rags. That's the only rational explanation for RTÉ giving the job to an Independent Newspapers employee.

And, yes, they are all incestuous back scratchers (they actually are - look at the surnames and relationships between Independent commentators; it's like a cult) who are ignored by anybody past a certain age - say, 17 - and above a certain intelligence level. Horrible gutter stuff.

Zebra3

The media here is very corrupt.

RTÉ was always a very inbred place with employees getting their families in e door.

Take a look at the media's basic reporting in politics. The FF/FG two sides of the one coin con job is always proposed as a meaningful opposition and never referred to as right-wing whereas SF and their ilk as always described as left-wing or even hard left.

Menas

nullzero wrote: »

It's a conspiracy.

You do know that Twink secretly runs Ireland from her Knocklyon command center don't you? How else does she end up on every chat show in the country when she has never had anything to say to interest anyone in the country?

Ah, but if it were not for Twinks omnipresense on daytime tv chatshows then we would not know that she is now selling cakes from a stall in bushy park.
I like cake!

Boom_Bap

If you pay a PR company enough, you can get as much press or spotlight time that you want.
For example, pretend you have started a new cooking school. Go to a PR agency and say that you want press for your new school. They will ask National or local, what types of medium?
Say you want national on everything...they say OK, that costs this much.
In the next few days your imaginary cooking school is everywhere.

jamesbere

When you think about it, we only have a small core of celebrities in this country. Their are not all that interesting when you look into some. Newspapers and magazines have to fill the page's so they throw up pictures and stories that decorate them to make it look interesting.

BuilderPlumber

Zebra3 wrote: »

The media here is very corrupt.

RTÉ was always a very inbred place with employees getting their families in e door.

Take a look at the media's basic reporting in politics. The FF/FG two sides of the one coin con job is always proposed as a meaningful opposition and never referred to as right-wing whereas SF and their ilk as always described as left-wing or even hard left.

Very true. You rarely hear anyone referred to as right-wing here I notice too. It is all to keep agendas in place. You notice the number of politicians from the FF and FG parties who write on papers too.

RTE and all the other mainstream media are totally inbred and have the same personalities often. Just count the number of Sindo writers who also have or had RTE TV shows and you will see.

The same old stuff the whole time you will see. The Sindo and Indo seem overall to be the print version of RTE, FF and FG respectively. Again, take a look at the Sindo and note the number of FF, FG or FF/FG associated writers in it. Also, it is top heavy with extreme rightwing columnists who probably think Donald Trump is god.

lizzyman

I don't even bother with Irish media. Read the Guardian for international news and a standard of journalism that the likes of the Irish Times can only dream about. The only thing I watched on RTE in the last few years was the Irish pub documentary that was on recently.

BuilderPlumber

jamesbere wrote: »

When you think about it, we only have a small core of celebrities in this country. Their are not all that interesting when you look into some. Newspapers and magazines have to fill the page's so they throw up pictures and stories that decorate them to make it look interesting.

Yes, but because only some are promoted and put up there on pedestals. There are countless other talents out there but they do not get a look in. To the media, there are only:

2 types of music: boybands and its rural inbred cousin boyfolk.
1 magician called Keith Barry.
About 10 chefs.
1 wedding planner.
1 jockey called Ruby.
2 worthwhile political parties
And loads of totally meaningless non-national celebs like that Katie Holmes who get washed up on our screens.

Surely, there is more than this out there? There is but they don't want to know.

darkdubh

Don't start me on the Sindo and their obsession with property developers and their "glamorous" wives and various Dublin 4 nouveau riche bigwigs whom the Sindo seem to think are some sort of elite aristo class and of so much interest to us mere mortals that they have to tell us every time they add another bathroom to their pile in Ballsbridge.Then the endless parade of lingere models,Leinster rugby players,X Factor also rans and "entrepreneurs".

OldGoat

lizzyman wrote: »

Guardian ... a standard of journalism that the likes of the Irish Times can only dream about.

The Guardians standards have slipped so low these days as to put them on a par with the Irish Times.

eamonnq

RTE employees showing up as 'celebrities' on RTE chat shows, I find the newsreaders especially annoying!!

RomanKnows

Zebra3 wrote: »

The media here is very corrupt.

RTÉ was always a very inbred place with employees getting their families in e door.

Take a look at the media's basic reporting in politics. The FF/FG two sides of the one coin con job is always proposed as a meaningful opposition and never referred to as right-wing whereas SF and their ilk as always described as left-wing or even hard left.

Absolute tosh. FF and FG are populist parties of the centre. Christian/Social Democrats. SF hopped into bed and started cupping the balls of Syriza - a hodgepodge of communists, trots and other assorted loons from the far left. That's why they get described as left-wing.

:rolleyes:

Streetwalker

The lack of working class accents (be it from Dublin, Cork, Waterford etc..) tells it's own story. The shop is closed and you aren't welcome.

Sleepy

OldGoat wrote: »

The Guardians standards have slipped so low these days as to put them on a par with the Irish Times.

To be fair to the Irish Times, they're not quite as feminazi as the Guardian...

darkdubh

Streetwalker wrote: »

The lack of working class accents (be it from Dublin, Cork, Waterford etc..) tells it's own story. The shop is closed and you aren't welcome.

The only time you hear regional/working class accents on RTE is when theyre taking the mick out of them on Republic Of Telly.

Dyr

darkdubh wrote: »

The only time you hear regional/working class accents on RTE is when theyre taking the mick out of them on Republic Of Telly.

They usually wheel david norris, brendan o'carroll or twink out to "do" working class accents

darkdubh

darkdubh wrote: »

The only time you hear regional/working class accents on RTE is when theyre taking the mick out of them on Republic Of Telly.

Not forgetting Joe Duffy - he who was almost in tears when a British soldier from Ballyer was killed occupying some oil-rich land in 2003 - who rose under the wing of one Gay Byrne. Listening to Duffy's political views on British-Irish issues, one can see why Gay "my daddy fought bravely for the British Empire/the Old IRA were gangsters/Gerry Adams is a terrorist" Byrne pushed him up the Montrose ladder. Joe Duffy is the Maggie Thatcher of RTÉ, a token outsider rewarded for being vociferously converted to the views of those in power and hostile to his own community. A useful idiot, in other words.


We shouldn't forget the other working class Dublin accent in RTÉ, its crime reporter appropriately enough! (Paul "the guards" Reynolds, who took over from his brother Gerry Reynolds, God bless the recruitment process). "Yes, yes, indeed he has one of those Dublin gurrier accents; should be rather useful in getting info on his fellow criminals".

BuilderPlumber

darkdubh wrote: »

Don't start me on the Sindo and their obsession with property developers and their "glamorous" wives and various Dublin 4 nouveau riche bigwigs whom the Sindo seem to think are some sort of elite aristo class and of so much interest to us mere mortals that they have to tell us every time they add another bathroom to their pile in Ballsbridge.Then the endless parade of lingere models,Leinster rugby players,X Factor also rans and "entrepreneurs".

Yeah, it is sickening. Developers and the likes of that Bill 'why can't you work for nothing' Cullen lording it over us. It is never right to make gods out of these chancers, but especially not in the last 5/6 years. Also, the Sindo's rich list is sickening.

It seems to focus on all the illgotten rich and celebrates such gangsters with no uncertainty about it. The dregs is what these papers are. The TV and papers in Ireland have a blatant disregard for its audience simple as! They ignore the people yet expect us to buy into what they do.

Anyone can be a journalist. Or a TV presenter. So long as they echo the views of the puppeteers they are controlled by.

The Sindo = Harris telling us how great and underappreciated Bertie is, RD Edwards praising some rightwing borderline KKK US presidential candidate, pictures of Johnny Ronan, political pieces by FF and FG politicians, gossip tripe from the likes of Barry Egan. Yes, a full paper of this ... plus 2/3 supplements and a glossy magazine!!

Dyr

Deleted User wrote: »

We shouldn't forget the other working class Dublin accent in RTÉ, its crime reporter appropriately enough! (Paul "the guards" Reynolds, who took over from his brother Gerry Reynolds, God bless the recruitment process). "Yes, yes, indeed he has one of those Dublin gurrier accents; should be rather useful in getting info on his fellow criminals".

Reynolds old man was a garda super, not exactly working class