4' concrete pipes

Grueller

I am looking for 4' diameter concrete pipes to put in a bridge over a stream to open a new gap between two fields. Any recommendations for suppliers? I am in South Leinster and a supplier from here or even somebody who may have seconds may help me. Thanks for reading.

td5man

Grueller wrote: »

I am looking for 4' diameter concrete pipes to put in a bridge over a stream to open a new gap between two fields. Any recommendations for suppliers? I am in South Leinster and a supplier from here or even somebody who may have seconds may help me. Thanks for reading.

Traceys in enniskillen

_Brian

Hard to beat a length of Corri pipe. Much easier handled and laid.

Also, when we were replacing bridges the lad on the digger said nothing less than 9" to allow for some sediment and to cope with downpours. Think it was €20/25 a length delivered.

orm0nd

_Brian wrote: »

Hard to beat a length of Corri pipe. Much easier handled and laid.

Also, when we were replacing bridges the lad on the digger said nothing less than 9" to allow for some sediment and to cope with downpours. Think it was €20/25 a length delivered.

op is looking for a 4 foot pipe

PN14

You'll need Sprigot & socket pipes for that size 1.2m diameter. These pipes come in 2.5m lengths and are a good weight. You will need a track machine for handling.

At that size pipe ridgidrain (corri pipe) plastic pipes become very expensive. Anything above 600mm pipes really the extra cost of the plastic over the concrete doesn't outweight the benefits of laying the 6m lengths of plastic pipe.

Where are you? (Just see you are in South Lenister so Condron Concrete closest to you) There are a couple of pipe suppliers in the country. Only the bigger guys would do that size pipe.

As mentioned above Traceys in Enniskillen; Condron Concrete (midlands); Croom Concrete (not sure if they do pipes that size), John A Woods (roadstone owned) in cork used to do pipes but think they might have stopped.

At the size you are looking at a concrete box culvert might be got as cheap; 1.2 x 900mm box culvert pretty much same volume as 1200mm pipe. You might even get away with 1.2 x 600mm box culvert less volume but flow better. There are a few crowds doing box culverts Croom Concrete (Limerick); Shay Murthagh (Galway); Banagher Concrete (offaly) others as well might be worth a call.

Would you get away with 2 600mm plastic corri pipes side / side. Easier lay.

_Brian

orm0nd wrote: »

op is looking for a 4 foot pipe

Oh.
Good stuff !!

ford 5600

Our locall Glanbia usually have 4 ft pipes in stock. Maybe only 2 or 3 of them though. 3 ft lengths. Some people use them for doing a shallow well. If spring isn't marvellous , you will have an awful lot more storage in the 4 , compared to the usual 3 ft. I have used 4 ft for that, and you will need a track machine to lift one. MF 50B won't lift one with the back actor, but will a 3 ft. Condrons in Tullamore make all sizes of concrete pipes. Off the top of my head, I think the 4 fts could be €130-40 each, but it could be 3 years ago since I bought them.

lakill Farm

I was going to say condron also. I know the big issue with concrete pipes is the transport

also maybe try Carlow precast. Never had dealings with them so don't know if they do them

could you use 18" pipes and put row over row

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easier to move and more available

Parishlad

Looking to do something similar to OP in near future. Need to put in a new crossing over a stream. Would this type of crossing be good enough to carry machinery? What's the best way to set the pipe in place?

td5man

ford 5600 wrote: »

Our locall Glanbia usually have 4 ft pipes in stock. Maybe only 2 or 3 of them though. 3 ft lengths. Some people use them for doing a shallow well. If spring isn't marvellous , you will have an awful lot more storage in the 4 , compared to the usual 3 ft. I have used 4 ft for that, and you will need a track machine to lift one. MF 50B won't lift one with the back actor, but will a 3 ft. Condrons in Tullamore make all sizes of concrete pipes. Off the top of my head, I think the 4 fts could be €130-40 each, but it could be 3 years ago since I bought them.

Well liners will crack if used as a pipe, pipes are reinforced.

Grueller

Reinforced pipes €153 +vat per metre for 4 foots

Non reinforced €135 including vat
That makes 191.25 vs 135.
I only need five metres so will be going with the reinforced. Those prices are from Condron concrete on the reinforced and a croom concrete agent on the non reinforced.

Box culverts were coming in at €4k for a 1200 x 1000 box.

Farrell

Parishlad wrote: »

Looking to do something similar to OP in near future. Need to put in a new crossing over a stream. Would this type of crossing be good enough to carry machinery? What's the best way to set the pipe in place?

Build a bridge, even precast slabs.
Putting heavy weight overtime will move or damage the pipes

Good loser

Would you put a concrete base under the pipes? In the stream?

AngryHippie

Farrell wrote: »

Build a bridge, even precast slabs.
Putting heavy weight overtime will move or damage the pipes

Depends on the class of pipe you get and whether you install it correctly.
There are options that would work, but they get heavy. You're not gonna drop it on with the front loader of the massey.


How deep and wide is the stream ?

Whats your heaviest piece of machinery ?

Parishlad

AngryHippie wrote: »

Depends on the class of pipe you get and whether you install it correctly.
There are options that would work, but they get heavy. You're not gonna drop it on with the front loader of the massey.


How deep and wide is the stream ?

Whats your heaviest piece of machinery ?

Stream is probably around 12ft wide. It is about 6 ft deep. During the summer it is only a trickle really (if not fully dry) but Winter time is a different story and would be full to the brim. It runs along a lane that connects the land on either side. There is an existing old stone bridge there currently but it is very narrow and while my father used to cross this with a 35 and a bale of silage once upon a time, I wouldn't like to chance it.
Have about 15 acres the far side of this bridge that is getting neglected now because I can't get access. So my primary aim is to get across with a topper, sprayer, spreader etc. However, ultimate goal is to do a bit of clearing over there, set up paddocks, put out slurry, bale etc. So whatever I put in as a crossing will need to handle decent enough weight.

PN14

Leave existing bridge in place. Put in new structure beside it. Just in case of any planning/conservation issues you can't be too sure nowadays.

Make sure you use s&s pipes (sprigot & socket pipes have a large collar at one side for connecting pipes) These are 2.5m long each so 2 would be 15 ft wide maybe go a third at allow for sloping off of any backfill or path over the top. S&S are much stronger than ogee pipes (these are the ones normally bought in coop 1m long with just a small lip recess where pipes join). S&S pipes more expensive but you may get seconds where the collar are slightly chipped doesn't affect structure of pipe but not good enough for laying sealed pipes commercially.

Putting concrete into streams has serious fisheries impact. You'd be as well to just dig down to solid ground in the bed and properly backfill well compacted stone back up to the invert level. Fill around pipes with stone bobs ur uncle. You'd want to allow at least 600mm of stone over pipes on backfill to distribute load.

Other option (fisheries would probably prefer) is a concrete base either side and span with a precast slab.

orm0nd

Farrell wrote: »

Build a bridge, even precast slabs.
Putting heavy weight overtime will move or damage the pipes

most likely you would buy a precast culvert for much the same cost with a lot less hassle



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