Kylemore Trade Cars?

flogen

The latest garage I've come across in my hunt for a new car - Kylemore Trade Cars.

They make clear that cars are sold as seen, which is a little bit of a red flag, but I'm wondering if anyone has had any first-hand experience with them.

Not seeing much mention of them around these parts - which may be a really good sign or a really bad one!

Atlantic Dawn

You in theory can't sell a car as seen to the public...

From a garage or car dealer

In this situation you, as a consumer, are protected by the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 as you are buying a car for your personal use from a person whose normal business it is to sell cars. As a consumer you have the same rights if you buy an item second hand as if it is new. In this case if you find a fault with the car after you have bought it the dealer is the person who must set matters right. If you buy a commercial vehicle or a tractor from a dealer you may not have the same protection under the law. If you are offered an extended warranty on a used car think about the cost of the warranty versus the cost of repairs that the car is likely to need.

Sellers have responsibilities such as giving accurate and truthful answers to the questions you ask. Information on a seller's responsibilities in car deals is available on the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission's website.

It is an offence under both road traffic legislation and the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 to sell a car which is not roadworthy. Where the car you bought is unroadworthy, you could also refer the matter to the Garda Síochána.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/motoring/advice_on_buying_a_used_car_in_ireland.html

bazz26

Why would you bother buying a car with no warranty from a dealer? The whole concept of buying from a dealer is the peace of mind in the warranty/comeback they offer you. If they are not willing to stand over something they are selling then might as well buy privately rather than paying a dealer's profit margin for something your not getting.

Also if cars sold as seen with no warranty only needed small money spent on them to sort them out then you can be sure it would be cheaper for a dealer to fix and then sell them on at the full retail price. They are being sold as seen for a reason.

flogen

bazz26 wrote: »

Why would you bother buying a car with no warranty from a dealer? The whole concept of buying from a dealer is the peace of mind in the warranty/comeback they offer you. If they are not willing to stand over something they are selling then might as well buy privately rather than paying a dealer's profit margin for something your not getting.

Also if cars sold as seen with no warranty only needed small money spent on them to sort them out then you can be sure it would be cheaper for a dealer to fix and then sell them on at the full retail price. They are being sold as seen for a reason.

Fair points - think I'll give them a miss.

FairlyBadLarry

Bought a 2007 Mondeo from Kylemore Trade Cars earlier this year. While they don't do warranties, they aren't honest about their vehicles either. They had told me that there was no issues with the vehicle and the vehicle was in perfect working order.

2 months after the purchase I discovered that this was actually a cut & shut and extremely dangerous. I am awaiting a court case with them in the coming month.

mullingar

Always avoid dealers in the "Ballymount Triangle" if you aren't car savvy, but an outfit selling "trade cars only" should scream use extreme caution.

punisher5112

Always do a full check on car including nct by checking ncts site and enter reg. No.

Always get a mechanic to look over the car.

As others have said trade sales and sold as seen are a big big waving red flag.

onemanshow1974

Kylemore charges lest than main dealers hence no warranty. Little profit margins = no warranty large = warranty. So when u buy from main dealer u pay anywhere from 2000 extra. Thats ur warranty. Kylemore dont hence no warranty

bazz26

onemanshow1974 wrote: »

Kylemore charges lest than main dealers hence no warranty. Little profit margins = no warranty large = warranty. So when u buy from main dealer u pay anywhere from 2000 extra. Thats ur warranty. Kylemore dont hence no warranty

The whole idea of buying from any dealer whether a main dealer or not, is to have comeback or peace of mind through a warranty. So why not just buy from a private seller altogether then? You still won't be paying for a warranty plus you won't be paying a dealer's profit margin either.

drunkmonkey

A Trader can't sell a trade car to an ordinary person and if they do and that person is not involved in the motor trade they are entitled to a warranty and protected under the sale of good act even if the receipt clearly says no warranty.

Trade garages are exactly for who they say they are, people in the trade. A dealer will source cars from them, you'll often find cars with faults and maybe a bang or two but the dealer will fix those before retaling the car and offering a warranty.

Superhorse

Bought a car from them last year and found them grand to deal with. Let me have the car for the day for test drive and told them I was getting my friend who's a mechanic to look it over. He gave it the all clear had it up on the ramp said it wouldn't have a problem passing he NCT which it didn't and I saved over 2000k on dealer prices and at least 1000 on private sales. Just my 2 cents on them.

student7890

Buying a car from them now. time will tell.

drunkmonkey

student7890 wrote: »

Buying a car from them now. Weird thing(in a good way hopefully) the same car is advertised in an adjoining car dealer's website for twice the price.
So I'm getting the same car without the warranty for 3K less..

Just to be clear a trader can't sell a car without a warranty if your a private consumer not in the motor trade, you still have comeback if it's a lemon. A trader can only trade a car into the trade. He can even put no warranty in writing your still protected under consumer law.

This should be a red flag when buying as they say no warranty, if your saving half the price see can you put a mapfre warranty on it or something to protect yourself http://www.mapfrewarranty.ie/
Warning lights on a car can be turned off easily and might not return for a few miles and then you have a fight on your hands to enforce your consumer rights.

Just be careful, there's plenty of garages around there that could inspect it for you, maybe pay one of the guys in gti direct around the corner to look it over. Could save you a headache.

student7890

student7890 wrote: »

Buying a car from them now. time will tell.

One month on and happy with the purchase and a good price.
I did take monkey's advice spending 50 euros to get a test drive and a check on the ramp from a mechanic in GTi which put my mind at rest.
Cartell told me previous owners had held the car for long periods.
I would buy from them again with the usual checks.

Dev84

Run a mile. Buy a car off a main dealer. A bit extra but a bit if peace and mind. If anything goes worng they may be easier to deal with.

Atlantic Dawn

Dev84 wrote: »

Run a mile. Buy a car off a main dealer. A bit extra but a bit if peace and mind. If anything goes worng they may be easier to deal with.

Most main dealers will not sell a car over 5/6 years old, much bigger budget required to purchase something from them. Bit of research and care when purchasing and you can be grand getting something with tiny warranty, think of it as pretty much a private sale.

stonebob

student7890 wrote: »

Buying a car from them now. time will tell.

How did that car work out ...you bought from kylemore cars

stonebob

Did u buy or hear any more from kylemore cars

colm_mcm

Try sending a PM, they haven’t posted in this part of boards in 2 years.