My partners ex and child

LegacyUser

My partner and her ex have a child together. her ex has to register with gnib for a visa and was told to bring his child as the visa was based on his parentage. However, he never sees his child. Once in the last three years.. What would happen if my partner refused to bring the child? My partner is stressing a whole lot over this and she is very worried.

Don't know either if this is in the right place. .

Detached Retina

needyoutohelpme wrote: »

My partner and her ex have a child together. her ex has to register with gnib for a visa and was told to bring his child as the visa was based on his parentage. However, he never sees his child. Once in the last three years.. What would happen if my partner refused to bring the child? My partner is stressing a whole lot over this and she is very worried.

Don't know either if this is in the right place. .

My ex recently had to go for the stamp renewal as his passport expired,and was overdue. My ex's GNIB was based on our marriage originally, but we're separated now - and immigration said it wasn't acceptable therefore for me to go as circumstances had changed and he needs to base it on the children (it should be based on them having a relationship with them).
He produced birth cert copies but told were unacceptable, and granted a temporary GNIB for 3 months.
They said he either has to make application for citizenship as he's here a long time (expensive), or produce passports at the bureau for one or both kids for renewal of stamp (so he told me).

Jotunheim

needyoutohelpme wrote: »

What would happen if my partner refused to bring the child?

Why would she do that? He may be delinquent as a father, but it is still his child. If GNIB want information on his relationship with the child then your partner can give them that information, but the child exists and the child is his, so there's no reason for her to obstruct the process by not cooperating.
If you, your partner or anyone else feels that he shouldn't have the right to use his child as a basis for an application, that's just their opinion and their problem and it's not one which should be addressed by obstructionism, it's a matter for the government, Dept. of Justice and GNIB to address through legislation etc.

acon2119

Well basically he would be using his child to get the visa, this is appropriate if he had a relationship with the child spent regular time with the child) but any parent who is not making the effort to be a proper parent does not deserve the right to use his child like this.

Almost any man can become a biological father but not all are dads. A dad is the man who is there for the child through most of their good and bad times.

zeffabelli

He may not deserve the right, but he still has the right.

That's how rights work.

Has paternity been established either on the birth very or the guardianship forms?

Jotunheim

acon2119 wrote: »

Well basically he would be using his child to get the visa, this is appropriate if he had a relationship with the child spent regular time with the child) but any parent who is not making the effort to be a proper parent does not deserve the right to use his child like this.
Almost any man can become a biological father but not all are dads. A dad is the man who is there for the child through most of their good and bad times.

All of which is just your opinion, not fact and not law. The relationship and child existed before you and your partner got together, you're just going to have to accept the positives and negatives of that instead of trying to impose your wishes and views on the situation. If you can't do that then visa issues are going to be the least of your worries.

acon2119

Good luck to your partner whatever she decides.

Maybe she needs to get some professional advice on the matter.

But regardless of what family, friends or professionals advise her to do she should do what she feels is right for her and her child.

charlietheminxx

I wouldn't bring the child to be honest. Not to spite the father, or to be vindictive, but I don't think you should use a child as your reason to live and work in Ireland if you have nothing to do with said child. How is it fair that the first time in years that the child sees their father is at the immigration office because they're useful? There are fathers everywhere fighting to see their kids or get more access or custody, this guy only wants to see his child to keep his visa, it's appalling,

IlmoNT4

The question really should be what is in the best interest of the child.....In the long term if the childs father has to leave the country, then the chances of the child developing any kind of relationship with him is going to be very slim, however if the childs father doesn't play any involvement in the child except for this visa process, then I'd feel the child should be protected from that process.

The child is a small person, and to be brought into an immigration office, where he/she sees their father and then never to be seen again, doesnt sound to me that it would be good for him or her. Yet it is in the interest of everyone to do their best to allow the father to develop a relationship with his child but if he hasnt bothered in 3 years then he may have no interest in the child. Has the mother talked to him about all of this? Is he any type of father?