Complicated heifer in calf sale

Taylor12

I was wondering if anyone here would have some advice on the following.

I bought a heifer at the mart, and a couple of months later my vet while carrying out testing highlighted she was in calf, when he looked at the sale date he said it was 50/50 whether she got bulled on my farm or the sellers farm.

So out of courtesy I rang the seller and told him the story and he said chances are it was on his farm and he'd come collect her. He refunded me the sale price and €2.00 a day for winter feeding.

He rang recently, just after the 9 month mark from when I bought her and said she hadn't calf and it must of happened on my land. So I offered him a full refund on what he gave me including the feed cost, plus €2.00 a day even though she was on grass OR the opportunity to keep the heifer instead.

He however wants to keep her until she calfs make up his mind then and IF HE KEEPS HER and the calf, he still wants the money he gave me for feeding her which is around €300

Am I wrong or does seem wrong

Count Mondego

Horse****. Tell him to fu#k off. If he keeps both of them why would you be paying for feeding then for the last few months?

Taylor12

Thanks Count that exactly what I thought, it was such a daft request I said I'd check if I was missing something.

Kovu

Count Mondego wrote: »

Horse****. Tell him to fu#k off. If he keeps both of them why would you be paying for feeding then for the last few months?

This. He can't have his cake and eat it. What if she has a section but still wants to keep her? You'll end up footing the bill for all.

Tell him it's one or the other.

Taylor12

I think thats exactly what the B*****s wants, the best of both worlds. He was told very clearly I'll pay her back and compensate you or you keep her and its quits but he doesnt seem to get the message

Kovu

Taylor12 wrote: »

I think thats exactly what the B*****s wants, the best of both worlds. He was told very clearly I'll pay her back and compensate you or you keep her and its quits but he doesnt seem to get the message

If he continues in the same vein, see if you can get back to the mart and explain the situation. The manager may act as a middleman if they're a good sort and they'd see enough of these situations to be able to tell the story straight and take no shíte.
You either give him the refund and payment for grass that she got OR he keeps her. There should be no two ways about it.

He may just think you're a bit of a soft touch (sorry!) after you offered the full €2 feed price back to him as well.

Taylor12

Possibly but I think he found out fairly lively I wouldn't take any ****e, middle man might be the way to go, I was thinking of putting the offer in solicitors registered letter for 2 reasons
A) there's proof of my offer in writing should he look for further costs down the road
I'm sick of listening to his ****e

Kovu

Taylor12 wrote: »

Possibly but I think he found out fairly lively I wouldn't take any ****e, middle man might be the way to go, I was thinking of putting the offer in solicitors registered letter for 2 reasons
A) there's proof of my offer in writing should he look for further costs down the road
I'm sick of listening to his ****e

Before you go down that route, I would seriously suggest trying the mart in the morning. They might give him a ring and frighten him a bit as he'll know you're serious. Even better if you tell the mart manager/office staff that you will be getting a solicitors letter if it isn't resolved, it will be mentioned in the call as they'll be hasty to find a solution to the issue.
You'll call to them will also be 'on file' so to speak as proof of you trying to resolve the issue before going further.

simonhm

get back your heifer and just take the wrap as the situation is getting all tangled up

Taylor12

I would love to but he refuses to give her back

Arrow in the Knee

Why don't you just let him keep the heifer.

ATM your breakeven on the heifer if I'm understanding it right.

Taylor12

I offered that also but he wants €360 compensation for the inconvenience of her being bulled on my farm

whelan2

how far over the 9 months is she? is she springing?

mf240

Taylor12 wrote: »

I would love to but he refuses to give her back

Get him to write this down and sign it. If he gets into trouble calving he will be after you again.

He was very reasonable with you the first time in fairness.

9935452

mf240 wrote: »

Get him to write this down and sign it. If he gets into trouble calving he will be after you again.

He was very reasonable with you the first time in fairness.

He was reasonable with the op, but now is looking for the feeding cost back plus a 'free calf' if the calf turns out to be a 'good one ' and the heifer has no trouble calving. If the calf turns out bad/sick/runt or problems at calving he wont want the calf.

Its like putting a bet on and when you lose expecting your money back
As the boys said above get the mart involved and see what happens.
Failing that go for your solicitor.
it has to happen before she calves

tanko

It's still not clear whose farm she was bulled on, it can be close to ten months in calf when some animals calve especially with lim Bulls. At this stage I'd be sick of it and leave things as they are now.