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Buying Site without PP

  • 17-07-2015 2:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    Hi Guys,

    Just looking for advice on purchasing a site and don't know much much about planning.

    I am considering buying a site that has had full planning granted before but expired in 2009.

    I know I shouldn't buy it without at least subject to planning.
    But I reckon I can get it for a good bit less if I push through the sale without delaying it waiting for PP.

    I am local to area and all that, so my question is

    If someone has got planning in the past is there any reason I couldn't get it for a similar type house?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    A purchaser can never push through a sale.

    Re planning no guarantee it will be re-given

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    tipp81 wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    Just looking for advice on purchasing a site and don't know much much about planning.

    I am considering buying a site that has had full planning granted before but expired in 2009.

    I know I shouldn't buy it without at least subject to planning.
    But I reckon I can get it for a good bit less if I push through the sale without delaying it waiting for PP.

    I am local to area and all that, so my question is

    If someone has got planning in the past is there any reason I couldn't get it for a similar type house?

    Lots of reasons. A lot has changed since 2009


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Rabbo


    A site without planning permission is just a field. It's possible that your County Development Plan or local area plan may have changed since the previous application and planning may not be guaranteed.

    Also, the EPA regualations/code of practice for on-site wastewater treatment changed considerably in 2009 and are now much more robust so there is no guarantee that the site is still suitable for on-site treatment, if required.
    Employ a local planning agent to check the feasibility before even thinking of putting money down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Minimum site size has possibly changed since that last grant so it could be the case that the site will no longer even be considered.
    Don't do it is my advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭JimmyMW


    Planning is never guaranteed until you have the grant of planning in your hands. Only consider this if the price of the site is money you are willing to loose, make no mistake you are making a bet which could go either way.

    I know of a particular case near me where a guy took a site in lieu of money owed to him, no idea of planning laws and has got left with it as it is almost an impossibility to get planning on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 tipp81


    Thanks for the advice Guys, think ill play it safe and wait to see about planning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭The Gride


    A good starting point would be to go and see the planning officer of your local council and see what he has to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Gerryww


    Consider engaging a local planning consultant to give you an opinion on the possibility of you obtaining planning on the site.

    As others have said, there have been some changes since 2009 but the fact the site previously had planning would be encouraging to me. If you are a local with a housing need then it might be a viable option for you.

    There are always risks when it comes the planning, but sites sold subject to planning generally sell for much higher prices,

    So if an experienced local planning consultant/architect gives you a positive opinion it might be worth a shot.

    Best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 navyddr713


    Put it in writing, if you don't get FPP the deal is off and you get your money back....


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