painting

sweet 78

Hi all
Looking for help.
Painting ceils and walls in my new house .
For the first coat of paint do I need to water the paint down?

fussyonion

No you don't. Put some Polybond in the paint and apply as usual.

dmc17

Personally, I would. It makes the job a lot easier and allows the paint to soak into the walls, giving you a sound base for the rest of your painting.

Ceepo

sweet 78 wrote: »

Hi all
Looking for help.
Painting ceils and walls in my new house .
For the first coat of paint do I need to water the paint down?

For the 1st coat apply a coat matt emulsion with watered down approx 15/20%.
As pointed out previous it will soak into the walls and ceiling giving a good base to apply finish Coat /coats
Do not use soft sheen or silk as a 1st coat even watered down as it will Not soak into the plaster.
Lightly sand the walls when dry and then apply your finish coats of paint.
Personally I would not use polybond as it does not allow the walls to breath.

sweet 78

Thanks for that
Do I need to put special paint on the galvanised wall angle beads on the side of the walls before first coat

Ceepo

sweet 78 wrote: »

Thanks for that
Do I need to put special paint on the galvanised wall angle beads on the side of the walls before first coat

I take it that this is internal ?. They should be plastered over but there might be a small bit showing on the edge. Usually there is no need to put any special paint on these. However sometime you can get a rust bleed through, in this case you can put some oil based undercoat on the area after the 1st coat of emulsion.

sweet 78

Would you use a product called bin

Ceepo

sweet 78 wrote: »

Would you use a product called bin

Sorry is this to paint the interior of the house or exterior ?

sweet 78

Inside on the galvanised beads

Ceepo

sweet 78 wrote: »

Inside on the galvanised beads

Generally I would say. Give the walls one coat of paint this will highlight any stain that bleeds through. Use oil based undercoat on any area that does come through then paint over with your finish coats of paint when dry.
Imo there is no need for Bin primer as u/c has better stain blocking coverage.

sweet 78

We are thinking of matt emulsion magnolia for base first coat and finishing with soft sheen Hayes days fleet wood colour on all inside walls would magnolia be ok rather than white base coat?

Ceepo

sweet 78 wrote: »

We are thinking of matt emulsion magnolia for base first coat and finishing with soft sheen Hayes days fleet wood colour on all inside walls would magnolia be ok rather than white base coat?

Magnolia matt emulsion would be the finest. The reason I use white is when I am painting the ceilings with the thinned out 1st coat is, A) I also coat the wall at the same time which means I am not waiting for the white paint to dry, I don't have to worry about cutting into the ceiling, C) worry about hitting the ceiling with the magnolia. This means I can get the job done faster.

Calahonda52

As Ceepo says:
Personally I would not use polybond as it does not allow the walls to breath.

Not a good idea at all

jlm29

I painted newly plastered walls last year with, I think 50/50 Matt emulsion/water, then 80/20, and then on with whatever I wanted over. Great finish. I used white emulsion, Bevause as someone already said, it made it much quicker when it came to painting ceilings
Of course, first I made a mistake of painting soft sheen directly on to the newly plastered walls of another room- disaster. I'm just watching it peel off, and I can't wait til I can get someone to come and fix up my mess!

michael999999

You do not need to thin out the paint.

Give walls and ceilings two coats. Job done.

You can use bin primer to cover any bleed from the galvanised beading, after your first coat of emulsion.

Do not under any circumstances use PVA on your interior walls. I have never worked with a professional painter that ever used PVA on interior plaster. I presume its an old wives tale that got people using it in the first place!

316

Pva on interior walls is a super job.

Ceepo

316 wrote: »

Pva on interior walls is a super job.

Why ?

Ceepo

michael999999 wrote: »

You do not need to thin out the paint.

Give walls and ceilings two coats. Job done.

You can use bin primer to cover any bleed from the galvanised beading, after your first coat of emulsion.

As with everything, everyone will have there own method. But in my experience (20 years painting) i would highly recommend to thin out the 1st coat on new plaster as it will absorbed better into new plaster and give a better key to further coats.

Of course you could use bin primer on the corners but again oil based undercoat will do the same if not a better job.

But each to there own 😉

sweet 78

Use magnolia today on first coat diffentely going back to white will paint full house white can pick different colours after would have painted 2 rooms white by the time one room magnolia

sweet 78

Use magnolia today on first coat diffentely going back to white will paint full house white can pick different colours after would have painted 2 rooms white by the time one room magnolia

Ceepo

sweet 78 wrote: »

Use magnolia today on first coat diffentely going back to white will paint full house white can pick different colours after would have painted 2 rooms white by the time one room magnolia

Its all a learning process
20 years experience you pick up a few things.