NCT Without Tax

6541

Sorry probably asked loads of times but do you need Tax to do an NCT ?

colm_mcm

No.

Obviously you shouldn't drive without tax, but it's not something they look at in the Nct

6541

No its just the car is old and Tax and NCT runs out this month. Depending on how bad the Car is I might just scrap it based on NCT etc..

colm_mcm

You can actually drive without tax if you're on the way to or from an Nct appointment.

Afaik this applies even if the car is declared off the road.

CiniO

colm_mcm wrote: »

You can actually drive without tax if you're on the way to or from an Nct appointment.

Afaik this applies even if the car is declared off the road.

I'd rather say this applies only if car is declared off the road.
If it's not declared off the road, but untaxed, you can not do it legally.

6541

Sorry a bit confused folks, Tax runs out end of July, next test date in my Centre is Mid August. I plan on driving and NCT the car without Tax for the month of August ...

biko

Ok, so stop driving car at end July. On day of NCT you can to and from the NCT centre without tax. If you pass and plan to continue driving you need to tax car.

6541

biko wrote: »

Ok, so stop driving car at end July. On day of NCT you can to and from the NCT centre without tax. If you pass and plan to continue driving you need to tax car.

How about this drive on and don't pay the water charges as well!

biko

Up to you, say hi to the guards.

6541

6541 wrote: »

Sorry a bit confused folks, Tax runs out end of July, next test date in my Centre is Mid August. I plan on driving and NCT the car without Tax for the month of August ...

You'll be grand. My tax ended at the start of this month, and my NCT isn't due til the 28th.

I went through a checkpoint a couple of days ago and nothing was said. Quick glance at the discs in the window and waved on.


Im waiting for mine to go through the NCT, but im also flip-flopping about buying a different car altogether, so I'm in no panic to tax it. Unless your tax is out a while, chances are the Gardai don't care. I think they can usually tell the genuine cases from the people who are ripping the piss.

whomitconcerns

Deleted User wrote: »

....the Gardai don't care. I think they can usually tell the genuine cases from the people who are ripping the piss.

So what's this genuine case for not paying your tax??

slimjimmc

whomitconcerns wrote: »

So what's this genuine case for not paying your tax??

There is none if you want to drive but I think what he means is that Gardaí tend to use their discretion if your tax is out by a couple of weeks or so. If you go much longer then the chances of talking your way out of a fine lessens. Go through a checkpoint with tax out 2 months or more and there's a good chance you'll be continuing your journey by other means.

6541

I have not seen a checkpoint in over three years. I drive the length and breath of Ireland.

whomitconcerns

whomitconcerns wrote: »

So what's this genuine case for not paying your tax??

"Sorry Garda, but I couldn't be bothered my hole taxing it". :pac:


As SlimJim says..

slimjimmc wrote: »

what he means is that Gardaí tend to use their discretion

Gardai are dealing with Joe Public every day. They can tell who will get around to taxing their car when they have a chance, and who has never taxed a car in their lives.

If I explained my above situation to a Garda (not taxing til the NCT, to see if it's staying on the road or not), I'm pretty sure I'd get a nod of understanding from the Garda and sent on my way. If my tax was out by 6 months and the NCT was out with no test booked, then he might have a different view.


Gardai wear a uniform, but they put their pants on one leg at a time, just like everyone else. They're real people and generally have a bit of common sense and appreciation for people's everyday lives. They're not all 'out to get you' for every little thing under the sun.

Any reasonable person (Garda or otherwise) would have no issue with your tax out a couple of weeks.

6541 wrote: »

I have not seen a checkpoint in over three years. I drive the length and breath of Ireland.

Oddly enough, I've started to see, what I can only describe as 'makeshift' checkpoints, appearing a fair bit more often. Often just two uniformed Gardai step out onto the road from the path and start conducting one, without a patrol car.

They seem to stay at it for 10-20 minutes and move along to another road that you can't turn off from easily. I've met more checkpoints so far this year than I have in any previous year (albeit, I'm only driving about 3 years so my experience is limited).

slimjimmc

Deleted User wrote: »

If I explained my above situation to a Garda (not taxing til the NCT, to see if it's staying on the road or not), I'm pretty sure I'd get a nod of understanding from the Garda and sent on my way.

I wouldn't recommend giving that excuse, it shows your intent to evade motor tax. Whatever chance you have with either tax or NCT being out but having both tax and NCT out could be pushing it a bit.

Deleted User wrote: »

If my tax was out by 6 months and the NCT was out with no test booked, then he might have a different view.

That's an understatement. You'd likely be told the tow truck is on its way, take your belongings with you.

slimjimmc

slimjimmc wrote: »

I wouldn't recommend giving that excuse, it shows your intent to evade motor tax. Whatever chance you have with either tax or NCT being out but having both tax and NCT out could be pushing it a bit.

That's an understatement. You'd likely be told the tow truck is on its way, take your belongings with you.

Your post sounds like your contesting my opinion.. but you seem to be agreeing with me, ultimately? Confusing :P

slimjimmc

Deleted User wrote: »

Your post sounds like your contesting my opinion.. but you seem to be agreeing with me, ultimately? Confusing :P

You posted 2 scenarios.

I'm disagreeing with your first scenario: getting the nod of understanding for recently expired NCT and tax after you admitting you're intentionally breaking the law on motor tax.

I'm agreeing with your last scenario (tax expired by 6mths and no NCT) whilst emphasising that the likelihood of action are higher and the consequences are likely to be quite severe.

6541

jasus Lads relax it was only a simple question. I rang the NCT people and they confirmed that one does not need tax for a NCT.

chickenlicken2

If your tax expires 07.15 you have until 30.08.15 to pay for a new disc without having to pay the monthly arrears in addition to the 3/6/12 months.

So regardless of rules re tax and driving to an appointment for not you would be perfectly fine driving to the appointment in august.

colm_mcm

That's not correct. Current tax is either displayed or not. Gardai have been known to use their discretion, but you don't have the guts of a month to drive around without tax.

If you're taxing the car late in the month (up till the last day of that month) you pay from the start of that same month.

Nekarsulm

I think when you're detected by the Auto number plate recognition system, you just get the ticket , regardless if your excuse.

Isn't there a 2 week grace period, or was that done away with? If so, OP, you're ok until NCT.

colm_mcm

No, there is no grace period.
In reality, you're very unlikely to be done for having tax out under a month, but it's at the discretion of the guard.

kidneyfan

colm_mcm wrote: »

No, there is no grace period.
In reality, you're very unlikely to be done for having tax out under a month, but it's at the discretion of the guard.

Gardai should have no discretion. They can't be trusted to exercise it honestly.

Mycroft H

Their discretion got me out of having no NCT for 5 months. Asked as to why, I was waiting on an appointment.

They've always been fine

ebbsy

6541 wrote: »

Sorry a bit confused folks, Tax runs out end of July, next test date in my Centre is Mid August. I plan on driving and NCT the car without Tax for the month of August ...

You will be ok as long as the weather is bad. The fuzz d'ont tend to do checkpoints when its raining.

Nekarsulm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I think when you're detected by the Auto number plate recognition system, you just get the ticket , regardless if your excuse.

If the Gardai act on an ANPR detection then they have to pull you over. ANPR isn't like a speed van that just automatically issues tickets.

Once the Garda pulls you over, it's back to him using discretion.

kidneyfan wrote: »

Gardai should have no discretion. They can't be trusted to exercise it honestly.

Ah, they can, though.

biko

Freeman stuff removed.

yz450man

endacl wrote: »

Did you take some special training in being wrong, or is it a natural talent you have? You're very good at it.

no its just called educating myself on my inalienable rights on this land for the last 10yrs nearly,no government should have power over me or anyone else until i/we consent to it.
you should try it sometime,you might learn something

Alan_007_

I'm pretty sure deregestering a car and driving around the place with your own plates is a fairly good way for the car to become property of the government.

tfitzgerald

whomitconcerns wrote: »

So what's this genuine case for not paying your tax??

In my case it was no money😱😱

endacl

yz450man wrote: »

no its just called educating myself on my inalienable rights on this land for the last 10yrs nearly,no government should have power over me or anyone else until i/we consent to it.
you should try it sometime,you might learn something

There's a reason your posts are being removed all over this site. Can you guess what it is?

yz450man

endacl wrote: »

There's a reason your posts are being removed all over this site. Can you guess what it is?

because your all bitches that's why. its obvious your all dumb ass slaves


User banned

Squidgy Black

yz450man wrote: »

because your all bitches that's why. its obvious your all dumb ass slaves

Righteous stuff man, free the hippies.

endacl

yz450man wrote: »

because your all bitches that's why. its obvious your all dumb ass slaves

You sound cross. Have you considered a nice cup of tea and a sit down?

Alan_007_

yz450man wrote: »

because your all bitches that's why. its obvious your all dumb ass slaves

You're either a troll or incredibly, incredibly dense.

yz450man

Alan_007_ wrote: »

You're either a troll or incredibly, incredibly dense.

no troll, so having knowledge is being dense? now how dumb does that make you huh?

endacl

Alan_007_ wrote: »

You're either a troll or incredibly, incredibly dense.

Are the two necessarily mutually exclusive? The latter may in fact enhance the former?

tfitzgerald

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Righteous stuff man, free the hippies.

endacl wrote: »

You sound cross. Have you considered a nice cup of tea and a sit down?

That's what I love about being irish. Even when people are being nice to you they can still put you in your place. This post by endaci should be post of the month

yz450man

endacl wrote: »

You sound cross. Have you considered a nice cup of tea and a sit down?

not at all im laughin here at the fact people are so dumb.

i don't eat or drink stuff that kills people,but you lot wouldnt know anything about that

biko

yz450man banned. We'll stop here.