RIP Irish water.

Banjo String

With just less than 850,000 failing to either pay of engage with the latest toxic quango, it's a good night Irene to irish water.

Irish Water has written to the Department of the Environment confirming that it has collected 46% of the revenue due from water charges.

However, it is understood that only 675,000 or 43% of households have so far paid the charges.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/46-of-water-charges-collected-by-irish-water-686510.html

What's the bets its thrown under the bus before the election?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I'm bored already

GerardKeating

Banjo String wrote: »

With just less than 850,000 failing to either pay of engage with the latest toxic quango, it's a good night Irene to irish water.



http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/46-of-water-charges-collected-by-irish-water-686510.html

What's the bets its thrown under the bus before the election?

Kind of a Glass Half Full/Empty story.

The Backwards Man

Half the people in the country wanting everything and paying for nothing isn't a surprise to most of us. But the majority of the non payers will fall in line eventually, nothing to see here.

jimgoose

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I'm bored already

Agreed. Seen one Nigerian 419, seen 'em all!

nullzero

What happened? Oh right, nothing.

FloatingVoter

Well, I want me free €100 grant then I'll cancel the standing order. I'm assuming given the intelligence level displayed so far by our glorious leaders they haven't factored in that percentage of "upstanding customer".
€100 just in time to fund a pre-Christmas pissup. No 3 hours in jail for non-payment of fines. Giveaway budget imminent and cheap villas in Greece 2016.
Kiss my ass, Enda.

Streetwalker

Government shills are angry tonight. Good times.

Tzardine

Something something Denis O Brien , illuminati. No consent , no contract.

Am I doing this righht.

Sheldons Brain

I paid. I am not a sponger.

FloatingVoter

Sheldons Brain wrote: »

I paid. I am not a sponger.

Make sure and rinse that sponge, my precious droplet.

Banjo String

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Half the people in the country wanting everything and paying for nothing isn't a surprise to most of us. But the majority of the non payers will fall in line eventually, nothing to see here.

You mean the majority of those liable to pay, as it's a minority paid. Nevertheless, I'm genuinely interested in how this gov't will force over a million of the electorate (a good portion of the 825 odd thousand households are obviously not single home owners) to pay up to a utility service they've evidently rejected?

Streetwalker

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Half the people in the country wanting everything and paying for nothing isn't a surprise to most of us. But the majority of the non payers will fall in line eventually, nothing to see here.

It's more than half Good try all the same.

mickdw

Banjo String wrote: »

With just less than 850,000 failing to either pay of engage with the latest toxic quango, it's a good night Irene to irish water.



http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/46-of-water-charges-collected-by-irish-water-686510.html

What's the bets its thrown under the bus before the election?

No chance. They will simply tie the debt to your property and not give a damn whether you pay or not.
Government are criminally taking 7000 euro off people who didn't pay the non primary residence tax so they will have no issue levying water charges against people with extreme fines included.

The Backwards Man

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Well, I want me free €100 grant then I'll cancel the standing order. I'm assuming given the intelligence level displayed so far by our glorious leaders they haven't factored in that percentage of "upstanding customer".
€100 just in time to fund a pre-Christmas pissup. No 3 hours in jail for non-payment of fines. Giveaway budget imminent and cheap villas in Greece 2016.
Kiss my ass, Enda.

Which is why you are running a country that rescued itself from the brink and they aren't?

freshpopcorn

I'd like to see the figure after the year end because I know lots of people who always pay there bills/car tax/ insurance at the last minute.
Been perfectly honest I thought the figure would be lower.

FloatingVoter

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Which is why you are running a country that rescued itself from the brink and they aren't?

No, I was telling Enda to kiss my bottom not inferring that I was our beloved leader. He is on Boards but mainly found in the Mayo section opening tbings.

Streetwalker

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'd like to see the figure after the year end because I know lots of people who always pay there bills/car tax/ insurance at the last minute.
Been perfectly honest I thought the figure would be lower.

:pac:

Tzardine

I have come up with an ingenious way to access an unlimited supply of free water.

It's my new, patented , harvester for my tears of joy .

I just have to wait for Lucinda Creighton to run for election and that baby will be on overdrive when the counts come in for her and her cronies .

Banjo String

mickdw wrote: »

No chance. They will simply tie the debt to your property and not give a damn whether you pay or not.
Government are criminally taking 7000 euro off people who didn't pay the non primary residence tax so they will have no issue levying water charges against people with extreme fines included.

This is not law yet, and even if it passes, it will only apply to a debt over €500 .

Water charges were capped at €260 per year on a two adult household and 160€ single occupancy household.

That means at least 2 years, or 3 years from now. There's a general election on the horizon, and the vast, vast majority have already rejected their policy. Despite threats, bribes, then more threats.

Explain to me how you think this attachment order will see the light of day?

mickdw

Banjo String wrote: »

This is not law yet, and even if it passes, it doesn't apply to a debt over €500 .

Water charges were capped at €260 per year on a two adult household and 160€ single occupancy household.

That means at least 2 years, or 3 years from now. There's a general election on the horizon, and the vast, vast majority have already rejected their policy. Despite threats, bribes, then more threats.

Explain to me how you think this attachment order will see the light of day?

I don't see why it won't.
Irish water depends on it and they have pretty much bet the house on irish water so regardless of pre election promises etc, I think whoever is in power after election will push on with that.

Gatling

Must have been a quite day for Paul Murphy in Greece

Banjo String

mickdw wrote: »

I don't see why it won't.

then you really should read the link on the compliance figures.

Irish water depends on it and they have pretty much bet the house on irish water so regardless of pre election promises etc, I think whoever is in power after election will push on with that.

I could hang you out to dry in pre election promises, but I'm too tired ( work in the am) but if you believe fg/Labour/sf or ff will promise, pre-election to implement legislation to forcibly deduct, or place attachaments on earnings on non payers on 825 thousand households (not electorate) then you've clearly overdosed on the koolaid.

Irish water will be on reeling in the years next year. Watch this space.

FloatingVoter

mickdw wrote: »

I don't see why it won't.
Irish water depends on it and they have pretty much bet the house on irish water so regardless of pre election promises etc, I think whoever is in power after election will push on with that.

Irish Water costs more than it would ever recoup. The ninnies are already looking for non-performance related bonuses. Axing it would be embarrassing for this government. With a change of face and some savvy spin, the merger of Irish water with the Dept. of the Environment will be seen as "streamlining". All job losses will be factored into the liquidity and flexibility of todays dynamic workforce.

Makes no sense to me either - but enough action words to keep Dobbo awake on the autocue.

Pride Fighter

Good news for a change. If this can be followed up with big numbers out at the next protest on the 29th of August and less people paying the next quarter, Irish Water will be dead and buried.

jimgoose

mickdw wrote: »

I don't see why it won't.
Irish water depends on it and they have pretty much bet the house on irish water so regardless of pre election promises etc, I think whoever is in power after election will push on with that.

They'll be hunted out the fcukan gate if they do, hot on the heels of this crowd of knackers.

MadYaker

Bit early for this surely? I don't mind paying water charges but I won't be upset if the whole thing implodes either. More money in my pocket. I have a feeling the government won't let that happen though. They will probably hand over collection duties to the revenue commission and it'll be like the property tax. But then again there's an election looming and that could potentially be very unpopular. I still think it's far too early for the anti water charges crowd to be claiming victory though

Guy:Incognito

Isnt there a thread for this stupid circular argument where posters can whinge endlessly about "paying 3 times"and how great they are for standing in a Garda 's face shouting "shame on you/no consent"?

Guy:Incognito

MadYaker wrote: »

Bit early for this surely? I don't mind paying water charges but I won't be upset if the whole thing implodes either. More money in my pocket.

It wouldnt be, the money will come from somewhere. Borrowing and paying interest on it (and thus costing more) will have to continue. It's coming out of your pocket regardless.

RobbingBandit

But what about the bonuses for the hard working boys at Irish Water, I know Uncle DOB will swoop in to the rescue, won't he...

jimmycrackcorm

Banjo String wrote: »

With just less than 850,000 failing to either pay of engage with the latest toxic quango, it's a good night Irene to irish water.

Sounds just like the Greeks after their referendum . Now the EU will have to listen...

Guy:Incognito

RobbingBandit wrote: »

But what about the bonuses for the hard working boys at Irish Water, I know Uncle DOB will swoop in to the rescue, won't he...

Rescue what? The best thing that could probably happen to Denis O'Brien is the whole thing fall apart seeing as IW is nothing to do with him. Presumably he'd still be entitled to have his contract for fitting the meters paid but wouldnt have the expense of actually doing the work.

That or "grrrr, DOB owns the world, rabble rabble rabble"

Banjo String

Alan Kelly was on the Pat Kenny Show earlier. Alan has said he is "quite happy with the 43% figure that have paid so far".

One text into the show read:

If Alan Kelly is happy enough with the 43% that have paid, then sure theres no need for the rest of us.

Gotta love Irish attitude.

Sam Kade

It will be RIP this thread soon as Irish water threads are not allowed in after hours

Son Of A Vidic

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I'm bored already

Why? Did mammy and daddy let you stay up last night?

Peregrine

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