Getting dog to sit or stay while shooting

MrTom1

anybody know how to get my springer to stay while shooting, everytime i let a shot off he runs like a mad man all over the field? i was out with the rifle the other day after rabbits and had to leave after 2 shots and bring him home. i want him to sit there and wait until am finished

Bogwoppit

Quick reply;
Make sure he sits while you're distracting him with other things such as dummies, tennis balls thrown around him, work closer til you're throwing them over his head.
Gradually introduce the gun, mounting it to your shoulder but no firing.
Mount gun and throw dummy
Fire gun with no other distractions
Fire gun and throw dummy

Work through the stages not moving to the next until you're happy he's sitting calmly. If he moves off go back a stage.

snipe49

MrTom1 wrote: »

anybody know how to get my springer to stay while shooting, everytime i let a shot off he runs like a mad man all over the field? i was out with the rifle the other day after rabbits and had to leave after 2 shots and bring him home. i want him to sit there and wait until am finished

What age is he and what training have u done with him?

patton69

will he sit and stay without the gun if so you have a starting point if not you need to start in your back yard teaching him to sit and stay and progress at his pace to the gun being fired start with his food

sit food goes down
try move food doesnt only let him move to eat it after he has sat a bit like 10 seconds extending the time with positive progression

teach him patience works not impatience at some stage you fired he ran around like a nutter and found something and id guess thats where you taught him to do this

if you cannot understand my post pm me

snipe49

MrTom1 wrote: »

anybody know how to get my springer to stay while shooting, everytime i let a shot off he runs like a mad man all over the field? i was out with the rifle the other day after rabbits and had to leave after 2 shots and bring him home. i want him to sit there and wait until am finished

Did u loose the dog as we are all waiting for your reply MrTom1

Wright

MrTom1 wrote: »

anybody know how to get my springer to stay while shooting, everytime i let a shot off he runs like a mad man all over the field? i was out with the rifle the other day after rabbits and had to leave after 2 shots and bring him home. i want him to sit there and wait until am finished

Can you not leash him to a nearby tree or post? Or is he supposed to fetch the rabbit after?

MrTom1

Sorry only coming back - i got a metal bar and post it and him on the lead now so hopefully that works

snipe49

:eek:

MrTom1 wrote: »

Sorry only coming back - i got a metal bar and post it and him on the lead now so hopefully that works

Wright

Good solution. Portable

MrTom1

snipe49 wrote: »

:eek:

LMAO too much coffee its a bar that looks like a cork screw that is staked into the ground to keep the dog in one place. every evening this week ive brought him out and put him on a lead while shooting. everytime he goes to run after the shot i shout down - he seems to be getting it now but i havent had him off the lead - thats next week :pac:

Springwell

When you take him off the lead have a length of light cord still on him. You can step on it if he does break the sit with the actual lead off. The shock often breaks them of the habit. He doesn't associate the lead coming off with a free for all then.

snipe49

MrTom1 wrote: »

LMAO too much coffee its a bar that looks like a cork screw that is staked into the ground to keep the dog in one place. every evening this week ive brought him out and put him on a lead while shooting. everytime he goes to run after the shot i shout down - he seems to be getting it now but i havent had him off the lead - thats next week :pac:

What age is u still might be able to stay on shot ?

jimf

it might be best to try and get somebody else on board with you to do the shooting while you stay with the dog

start off with firing a few shots a good distance from the dog and gradually work closer

when you start getting a positive reaction go home and don't overdo it tomorrow is another day

snipe49

jimf wrote: »

it might be best to try and get somebody else on board with you to do the shooting while you stay with the dog

start off with firing a few shots a good distance from the dog and gradually work closer

when you start getting a positive reaction go home and don't overdo it tomorrow is another day

I think the problem here is the dog is running in on shot. !

jimf

yes I would agree with you snipe but the shot is now the trigger to go bonkers imho he will need to be retrained to not associate every shot to be that trigger

this is why I would suggest staying with the dog himself while somebody else does the shooting the owner should be the calming influence the dog needs

MrTom1

so take him shooting but have him on the lead so when a shot goes off he knows that he doesnt run away mad.

i have him now when shooting he doesnt run , i can see he wants to and if the lead was off id say he would :mad:

Springwell

What steadyness training did you do with him? Can you throw dummies around him and pick them yourself with him sat? Can you use a dummy launcher without him running in? Can you fire a blank and keep him sat?

norwegian fjord

Are there any gun dog clubs? Looking for some training help in Galway/South Mayo area.