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10/11 spd compatibility

  • 10-07-2015 9:28am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭


    What is the difference in freehub between a 10 and 11 spd. What makes one not compatible with the other?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    lennymc wrote: »
    What is the difference in freehub between a 10 and 11 spd. What makes one not compatible with the other?


    http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/01/11-speed-road-bike-hubs-versus-10-speed-tech-breakdown/

    Your google box no workee?:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭lennymc


    my google fu has failed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    lennymc wrote: »
    my google fu has failed.

    What are you trying to do? Use old 10 speed wheels with an 11 speed group? Heard a pretty handy work around last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭lennymc


    Potentially, yes.

    Im trying to cost up a new bike and wondering will I need to change my race wheels. If an 11spd cassette will fit on the 10 s pd then that's fine. I also need to consider the powermeter - I can buy a new freehub for 11spd, but they are nearly 100 quid, so would need to wait a while before getting that on top of the cost of a new bike. Is the work around removing one of the 11spd cogs? I found that one online (when my google fu worked!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    lennymc wrote: »
    Potentially, yes.

    I heard this on a windy spin but as I understand it you take an 11 speed say 11-28 and remove the 14, giving you 10 speed with 11 speed spacing.

    You then put a spacer(1.6mm or whatever) which makes up freehub difference at back of cassette. Seems to work well, once your careful with limit screws etc. Man that did it posts here occasionally and maybe I misheard him!

    Allows you to wear out good wheels rather than selling them off for peanuts I suppose.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭C3PO


    ford2600 wrote: »
    I heard this on a windy spin but as I understand it you take an 11 speed say 11-28 and remove the 14, giving you 10 speed with 11 speed spacing.

    You then put a spacer(1.6mm or whatever) which makes up freehub difference at back of cassette. Seems to work well, once your careful with limit screws etc. Man that did it posts here occasionally and maybe I misheard him!

    Allows you to wear out good wheels rather than selling them off for peanuts I suppose.

    Maybe I'm misunderstanding .... but is that not the opposite of what Lenny wants? IE. He wants to use an 11 speed group with 10 speed wheels?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭letape


    Are you using SRAM/Shimano or campag? If campag no problem - freehubs generally accept 11 and 10 speed.

    If Shimano, it very much depends on the wheel (freehub) if it will be compatible for both. Eg newer mavic and fulcrum wheels will accept either cassette.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    ford2600 wrote: »
    I heard this on a windy spin but as I understand it you take an 11 speed say 11-28 and remove the 14, giving you 10 speed with 11 speed spacing.

    You then put a spacer(1.6mm or whatever) which makes up freehub difference at back of cassette. Seems to work well, once your careful with limit screws etc. Man that did it posts here occasionally and maybe I misheard him!

    Allows you to wear out good wheels rather than selling them off for peanuts I suppose.

    That was me! The windiness of that particular spin was nothing to do with me, I hasten to add.

    I have a number of wheelsets that will not take an 11-speed cassette without either replacing the freehub body & redishing OR doing some of the butchery I've seen on-line where people are filing the back out of 11 speed cassettes and freehub bodies.

    As the 11-speed groupsets are now cheaper than the 10-speed ones they replaced, I decided I'd go for the 11 and run it as a 10, as described in this:

    http://darkspeedworks.com/blog.htm

    Works absolutely fine, so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    The ten to eleven is a bit of a hairy band-aid alright :(

    Personally I'd be warily cognisant of the imminent disc brakes brouhaha before investing in a medium term new bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭clog


    lennymc wrote: »
    Potentially, yes.

    Im trying to cost up a new bike and wondering will I need to change my race wheels. If an 11spd cassette will fit on the 10 s pd then that's fine. I also need to consider the powermeter - I can buy a new freehub for 11spd, but they are nearly 100 quid, so would need to wait a while before getting that on top of the cost of a new bike. Is the work around removing one of the 11spd cogs? I found that one online (when my google fu worked!)

    If it's a powertap you have I have an 11 speed freehub body for it. (it is a 10 second job to change). You can even change/swap with the cassettes in situ.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=94921839


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