Have you ever reported anyone out to the Social Welfare for false claims?

One More Toy

Sincerely thinking of doing it, what were the consequences, if any?

NachoBusiness

Linda Nolan.

ihavenoname3

One More Toy wrote: »

Sincerely thinking of doing it, what were the consequences, if any?

don't be that person.

youtube!

One More Toy wrote: »

Sincerely thinking of doing it, what were the consequences, if any?

Bad Karma. That's what .

One More Toy

ihavenoname3 wrote: »

don't be that person.

Wow. Insightful post. Aigh sure we will just keep raping the states coffers to pay abusers of the social protection system :rolleyes:

Moved to State Benefits. Please read their charter before posting.

One More Toy

Deleted User wrote: »

Moved to State Benefits. Please read their charter before posting.

Kinda wanted the AH approach but i wont disagree

ihavenoname3

One More Toy wrote: »

Wow. Insightful post. Aigh sure we will just keep raping the states coffers to pay abusers of the social protection system :rolleyes:

go and do it then, why even ask? have you no mind of your own? I wouldn't do it to my worst enemy, you would want to have a pretty pathetic sad life to care about such things.

Plek Trum

I think you can do it anonymously. I came close one time, very close. People I know, actual life long friends - 'seperated / divorced' on paper but living together. New house all done up lovely, mortgage in one name only. Widescreen tvs, sky boxes in all bedrooms and each room in the house (x 6) , foreign holidays a few times a year, kids with all the very latest phones and gadgets, car (in school!) , large amounts of pocket money each week for each child, large savings account. Grants for education, Mother down as single parent family, everything 'official' registered to a relatives house, full benefit medical cards for everyone. Claiming benefits illegally for years and years, everything you can think of. Mother works from home, non declared income.

We work 86hours a week between us, pay a ridiculous amount of tax etc etc - the same situation as the majority of ordinary hardworking people in this country. Its very frustrating when you are budgeted so tight to pay mortgage, childcare, bills etc with little to nothing left over. We are very fortunate to be able to meet our bills even if there's not a lot left I know - but when you see what you loose in taxes and then see the lifestyle others have that you are, technically, paying for, well, its hard not to be tempted.

I didn't do it, decided it would eat away at me - but there are times I wonder how I would feel if they did get caught (!) I find it easier to focus on my own family and work and trying to provide for the future as best I can with what we earn. I know I have ZERO right to complain about the situation if I dont report it. Tough situation...

haveringchick

ihavenoname3 wrote: »

go and do it then, why even ask? have you no mind of your own? I wouldn't do it to my worst enemy, you would want to have a pretty pathetic sad life to care about such things.

You have no problem then with others stealing from you? You approve of muggings and bagsnatching too?

ihavenoname3

haveringchick wrote: »

You have no problem then with others stealing from you? You approve of muggings and bagsnatching too?

of course who doesn't? cop on. jealousy is the reason anyone reports such people, simple as.

haveringchick

ihavenoname3 wrote: »

of course who doesn't? cop on. jealousy is the reason anyone reports such people, simple as.

I can only conclude that you are one of those stealing others tax Euros. Euros that should he going to childrejs health and schools.
But sure buy yourself another handbag there im only jealous of you.

whupdedo

ihavenoname3 wrote: »

go and do it then, why even ask? have you no mind of your own? I wouldn't do it to my worst enemy, you would want to have a pretty pathetic sad life to care about such things.

I done it once . I'm self employed and was pricing work in my local area when 2 guys that were on the dole started pricing a few jobs against me , they got a couple even though they weren't registered , insured , or paying any tax , I wasn't long getting sick of it when I saw them working on jobs I had priced , so I reported them and they got pulled in over it .

I don't mind losing out on a contract to a legitimate contractor , but to lose out to a couple of goons who want their bread buttered on both sides is really just taking the piss

ihavenoname3

haveringchick wrote: »

I can only conclude that you are one of those stealing others tax Euros. Euros that should he going to childre

well your conclusion is very wrong, I wouldn't dream of ever defrauding anyone. I just cant understand people that report other people for things like that, reminds me of kids telling tales. you would never get a successful person doing such things, its always someone who is not happy with their own life so want other people to be in the same boat as them.

Streetwalker

Get a life OP

Kimbot

ihavenoname3 wrote: »

jealousy is the reason anyone reports such people, simple as.

Thats nonsence, its not jealousy to do the right thing!

If someone is claiming to beat the band and knows one day they might get caught then they chose that. I've never claimed anything of the state, I've worked since I was 15 and barely scrape by. If i knew someone was scamming the system then why should I let it go on when its my tax money providing them with a cushy life that they are unwilling to work for.

ragbak

One More Toy wrote: »

Sincerely thinking of doing it, what were the consequences, if any?

Report him/her.
Whatever they think it is they are doing, it is fraud and they are stealing from the taxpayers. I would have absolutely no second thoughts about reporting someone.

Say one person defrauds the government for €5000 per year. That equals one tax paying person to do a bank transfer from himself to the fraudster for €5000 per year. Why would you want to keep that up?

There are no consequences for you.

Ashbx

OP ignore all the comments sayin you are jealous. I would put my money on these people are claiming themselves.

I have never done it myself but I wouldn't hesitate to do it depending on the circumstances. I have a friend (or acquaintance more like) who is 35, had her last job when she was 22. She has 4 kids aged from 16 - 6 months. Her boyfriend is also 35. Has never worked a day in his life and is doing fas course after fas course intentionally so that he doesn't have to work. She claims everything she can possibly get. She is that low that she even gets money from St. Vincent de Paul on a weekly basis.

This woman recently got diagnosed with MS and although is on a medical card and gets it paid for her. She has decided she doesn't want to take her medication because she prefers to have a glass of wine at the end of the day and her medication doesn't allow that. Is this seriously where my tax money is going?

If there was no kids (especially babies) involved, I would have reported her a long long time ago. Im sorry I cant help with what consequences may come out of it but please don't let people on here put you off just because they don't agree with you.

bucketybuck

I am one of those lucky people who gets to pay money into the system every week while getting absolutely nothing back. I pay the full rate of tax and get nothing in the way of tax credits or benefits or any of those other handouts that some people seem to be all too aware off.

Basically it is people like me that are paying for all these ****ing dole cheats and scammers to live the life of luxury. If I could report every single one of them I would do it in a heartbeat. Maybe if so many weren't abusing the system we could put my tax money to use where its really needed.

runawaybishop

ihavenoname3 wrote: »

well your conclusion is very wrong, I wouldn't dream of ever defrauding anyone. I just cant understand people that report other people for things like that, reminds me of kids telling tales. you would never get a successful person doing such things, its always someone who is not happy with their own life so want other people to be in the same boat as them.

You cant understand why people would report a crime and you think people who do so are kids telling tales? Its pretty much a requirement of citizens in a decent society.

Kimbot

Exactly, lets say 1 person is on the dole of €218 a week, that over the course of a year is €11,336.

Now if only 100 people out of the 500,000 odd are scamming it then thats €1,133,600 and lets face it, there are thousands of people out there scamming the system so that runs into the millions! Its not a small figure by no means. 1000 people scamming it is 10 Million FFS and that 10 Million can make a world of difference to our health system/schools/guards/public infrastructure! Instead people think its fine that others are scamming as long as its not coming directly out of their pocket. But remember the taxes you pay, the water charges etc. all this does come out of your pocket and is going to these chancers so if you do know of people scamming then report them, its anonymous and hell you can even class it as your good deed done for the day!

Kimbot

ihavenoname3 wrote: »

you would never get a successful person doing such things.

If you really think that a successful person would not rat out a dole cheat then your wrong! I know plenty of cases were the reporter of such cheats were very sucessful!

B.A._Baracus

One More Toy wrote: »

Sincerely thinking of doing it, what were the consequences, if any?

Sorry op, but you know the consequences. It's not rocket science.
If you report someone they may get done for fraud. All depends if the SW can prove it or not.

If by consequences you mean whats the consequences for you? Well your name won't get mentioned. But as what usually happens, the person getting reported will have a fair good idea who it was even if they cant prove. So you may have to deal with that.

See this is all based upon one key element ... do you actually know they are frauding? As the social welfare gets thousands of claims each year that are just bogus. Just nosey neighbours without a clue or bitter / petty jerks trying to one up someone they dont like etc.

sillysmiles

If for the sake of argument, someone is reported to be defrauding SW. If they are and they get caught - well and good - more money in the SW to go to the people who need it. If they aren't defrauding, then they just need to prove it. I imagine it is much harder for the state to prove that someone is defrauding the system than it is for someone to prove that they are not defrauding.

I've never been in the situation where I felt that I knew someone was defrauding the system, but I have no problem with people who are ripping off those of us who work getting reported.

Geuze

https://www.welfare.ie/en/pages/secure/reportfraud.aspx


Here is the link to report welfare fraud.