What would you upgrade on my build??

BobbyT28

Hi,

I was wondering what people would upgrade on my exsisting build?

Acer S240HLBID 24-inch Monitor

16GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL9

ASRock H87 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX

be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7

RAIJINTEK Aidos Heat pipe

Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 120GB SATA

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA

Corsair Carbide 500R Micro ATX Midi Tower €100

Intel Xeon E3-1230V3 4x3.30GHz So1150 Box Haswell


MSI R9 270X GAMING 2G graphics card - Radeon R9 270X - 2 GB


I mainly use it for Photoshop and general use. I was thinking of doing a Hackintosh but not sure if my build is compatible or can I dual boot instead. I was goning to install anothrer SSD and have OSX Yosemite installed on that. IS that possible?





Regards,
Rob

Digital Solitude

I think it would be, you'd have to go to the boot menu to choose the secondary SSD to boot into it's OS though.

If you're not gaming, then there's really not much
If gaming, upgrading the GPU to a 970 or 290 but even that probably isn't necessary.

You could go for an i7 4790k either, but there's really no need IMO

Are you having trouble with it or just have the upgrade bug?

TerrorFirmer

DS is pretty much on point, for photoshop and general use, there is pretty much no upgrade path on what you already have. Is there any particular reason behind the upgrade other than dual booting?

BobbyT28

Digital Solitude wrote: »

I think it would be, you'd have to go to the boot menu to choose the secondary SSD to boot into it's OS though.

If you're not gaming, then there's really not much
If gaming, upgrading the GPU to a 970 or 290 but even that probably isn't necessary.

You could go for an i7 4790k either, but there's really no need IMO

Are you having trouble with it or just have the upgrade bug?

Hi,

Thanks for the thoughts. No issues. Was just interested in finding out what people would upgrade on my build. I am really interested in the Hackintosh dont mind having to boot on ssd each time.

I haven't really found any good step by step guides on how to do this.

Ant695

BobbyT28 wrote: »

Hi,

Thanks for the thoughts. No issues. Was just interested in finding out what people would upgrade on my build. I am really interested in the Hackintosh dont mind having to boot on ssd each time.

I haven't really found any good step by step guides on how to do this.

Another option would be just to put in a bigger ssd and partition for 2 operating systems. This way you'll just get a prompt to pick which one to use the same way you'd get ask which user account you what to sign into.

You might have more luck looking for guides on dual booting Linux as there is tons on that but would be very similar process.

BobbyT28

Ant695 wrote: »

Another option would be just to put in a bigger ssd and partition for 2 operating systems. This way you'll just get a prompt to pick which one to use the same way you'd get ask which user account you what to sign into.

You might have more luck looking for guides on dual booting Linux as there is tons on that but would be very similar process.

It it possible have a dual boot hackintosh? I though you would have had to have a another drive? I don't mind having 2 separate ssd's.

So looking at my hardware would it be possible to do a hackintosh?

Probably stupid question, but could you recommend a guide to follow that works for all hardware a kind of generic walk through?

Thanks for the replies,
BobbyT28

Digital Solitude

I'd say they're all generic, never seen a guide that changed from PC to PC aside from smaller things

Sahil123

I'd say if you want to run OSX on your machine you should have a read through the tonymacx86. They have a forum there as well for discussions if you have any questions. I think the card you have is compatible OOB with Mac so no issues there.

You should be good to go with the specs you have I think (check tonymacx86 to make sure). As far as I remember, you'll need a mac with a genuine copy of OSX. Then you download the latest version of OSX, put it on a flash drive and install a new bootloader (I think). From what I read, it's best to have two separate hard drives if you want to dual boot.

I was doing a bit of research myself when I was building my PC but decided against it in the end. It is definitely possible, but it's a good bit of work and will take time to get everything to work.

BobbyT28

Sahil123 wrote: »

I'd say if you want to run OSX on your machine you should have a read through the tonymacx86. They have a forum there as well for discussions if you have any questions. I think the card you have is compatible OOB with Mac so no issues there.

You should be good to go with the specs you have I think (check tonymacx86 to make sure). As far as I remember, you'll need a mac with a genuine copy of OSX. Then you download the latest version of OSX, put it on a flash drive and install a new bootloader (I think). From what I read, it's best to have two separate hard drives if you want to dual boot.

I was doing a bit of research myself when I was building my PC but decided against it in the end. It is definitely possible, but it's a good bit of work and will take time to get everything to work.

Cheers man. Yeah id say it should be OK. I have a genuine copy. Is it just as easy as loading installer on to USB using one of the methods on tonymacx86 and installing it on the new ssd?

Yeah I think it would be better having it on a separate ssd and getting another 1TB hard drive hackintosh. So effectively having two pcs in one.

Thanks
BobbyT28

Sahil123

Well as far as I remember it is as easy as putting the installer on the USB and following the method on tonymacx86! But remember that there could be unexpected problems after the install. Like for example, the WiFi or bluetooth may not work. Just don't expect it to work perfectly even if you follow the instructions correctly! I'm not saying that it won't, I hope it does, but you have to expect the unexpected.

On second thoughts, I'm not full sure about that processor. It should work I'd say, but the guides I read through recommended the 4th generation Intel i3/i5/i7 processors. Again, have a look on that website and after doing a bit of reading, if you still have questions, post on that forum. The lads there are quite helpful from what I remember!

Good luck on your build anyway. It will be quite a powerful hackintosh at the end of it!

BobbyT28

Sahil123 wrote: »

Well as far as I remember it is as easy as putting the installer on the USB and following the method on tonymacx86! But remember that there could be unexpected problems after the install. Like for example, the WiFi or bluetooth may not work. Just don't expect it to work perfectly even if you follow the instructions correctly! I'm not saying that it won't, I hope it does, but you have to expect the unexpected.

On second thoughts, I'm not full sure about that processor. It should work I'd say, but the guides I read through recommended the 4th generation Intel i3/i5/i7 processors. Again, have a look on that website and after doing a bit of reading, if you still have questions, post on that forum. The lads there are quite helpful from what I remember!

Good luck on your build anyway. It will be quite a powerful hackintosh at the end of it!

Thanks a mill for all the advise. Might just give it a go and see how I get on.

Ant695

BobbyT28 wrote: »

It it possible have a dual boot hackintosh? I though you would have had to have a another drive? I don't mind having 2 separate ssd's.

So looking at my hardware would it be possible to do a hackintosh?

Probably stupid question, but could you recommend a guide to follow that works for all hardware a kind of generic walk through?

Thanks for the replies,
BobbyT28

I've only done it with Linux but from what I had read should be no problem having a parition for osx as well as some of the guides I read suggested you could have a windows,Linux and osx all on one drive on one machine if you wanted. I'll have a look for the specific guides I read later when I'm on the computer as phone **** for that and post any relevant links.

BobbyT28

Ant695 wrote: »

I've only done it with Linux but from what I had read should be no problem having a parition for osx as well as some of the guides I read suggested you could have a windows,Linux and osx all on one drive on one machine if you wanted. I'll have a look for the specific guides I read later when I'm on the computer as phone **** for that and post any relevant links.

That would be great thanks.

Digital Solitude

Windows doesn't like playing with other OS's so Mightn't be that easy for the grub

BobbyT28

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Windows doesn't like playing with other OS's so Mightn't be that easy for the grub

TBH I think I might just install it clean on a new SSD and use a spare 2TB Seagate I have as storage and just change the boot sequence anytime I want to switch between OS's

What you think?

Thanks for all the comments and advise, much appreciated

BobbyT28

Ant695

BobbyT28 wrote: »

TBH I think I might just install it clean on a new SSD and use a spare 2TB Seagate I have as storage and just change the boot sequence anytime I want to switch between OS's

What you think?

Thanks for all the comments and advise, much appreciated

BobbyT28

Having looked in more detail at doing it with windows and os x it definitely looks like alot less hassle to have them on seperate drives as there can be conflict depending on which you install first etc... on the same drive.

BobbyT28

Ant695 wrote: »

Having looked in more detail at doing it with windows and os x it definitely looks like alot less hassle to have them on seperate drives as there can be conflict depending on which you install first etc... on the same drive.

Yeah, just picked up 128gb ssd and 2TB Seagate barracuda. Created unibeast bookable drive last night so gonna give it a go later today or tomorrow. Will let you know how I get on

Thanks again folks.

BobbyT28

BobbyT28

OK, OS X Yosemite installed. Just about to start on Multibeast.

What options to I select for my motherboard and SSD? I have the following already checked,

Audio: ALC892

disk: atheos 3rd party eSATA . (should I choose something different as I am using SSD for boot drive)

trimmer enabled: 10.10.3 TRIM Patch

Misc: Atheos USB 3.0

Network: AppleIntelE1000e v3.01a ( Not sure what I should check here)

System: nothing checked

Boatloaders: Chimera v4.1.0

Customize

Boot options: Basic Boot options, Hibernation mode desktop, IGPEnabler=No (not sure about this), Kext dev mode, use Kernal cache

System Definitions: Not sure what to check! Maybe iMac 15.1 ?

Themes: Tonymacx86 Black

Any help would be great.

Thanks BobbyT28

BobbyT28

BobbyT28 wrote: »

OK, OS X Yosemite installed. Just about to start on Multibeast.

What options to I select for my motherboard and SSD? I have the following already checked,

Audio: ALC892

disk: atheos 3rd party eSATA . (should I choose something different as I am using SSD for boot drive)

trimmer enabled: 10.10.3 TRIM Patch

Misc: Atheos USB 3.0

Network: AppleIntelE1000e v3.01a ( Not sure what I should check here)

System: nothing checked

Boatloaders: Chimera v4.1.0

Customize

Boot options: Basic Boot options, Hibernation mode desktop, IGPEnabler=No (not sure about this), Kext dev mode, use Kernal cache

System Definitions: Not sure what to check! Maybe iMac 15.1 ?

Themes: Tonymacx86 Black

Any help would be great.

Thanks BobbyT28

Tried multibeast with the above settings now getting the following error. Looks.like a kernel panic or something. Any ideas

BobbyT28

Might have resolved it. did -x at boot options screen. Reinstalled multibeast and select NullCPUPower management under drivers. Restarted and everything boot up perfect.

I followed this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q4gQq0nngQ

Regards,
BobbyT28

frozenfrozen

Nice to see you're getting it working. I tried a few years ago and it seems they've really polished the whole process. I tried when my board was relatively new and the guide basically said "now manually write out your own kext and reference all the 0x3748278 0x78423987423987423 4239847 23984723948723948723498273489" then I gave up for a while.

After getting it all working and sleep mode and all that finally working flash and my onboard audio just wouldn't work no matter what I did so I gave up and undid it all.

BobbyT28

now i'm getting Boot0 error!

Any ideas?

BobbyT28

tried this,

Solution 1: Use UniBeast
Pros: Easy- OS X Only
Cons: Requires use of the Terminal and UniBeast drive.

How To Do it:
1. Install using UniBeast
2. Boot new installation using UniBeast created USB.
3. Run MultiBeast and install as normal
4. Reboot system back into OS X installer.
5. Run Disk Utility and unmount the drive you installed OS X on. Right click on the volume and select Unmount.
6. Launch Terminal and execute the following command:

Code:
dd if=/usr/standalone/i386/boot1h of=/dev/disk0s2
7. Exit Terminal
8. Reboot Normally

NOTE: The above instructions are based on OS X being installed to a hard drive connected to SATA port 0. If you are using a different port you will need to get the drive device name from Disk Utility by selecting the volume and clicking Info.

Still not working this is the screen i am seeing (see attched0

BobbyT28

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Nice to see you're getting it working. I tried a few years ago and it seems they've really polished the whole process. I tried when my board was relatively new and the guide basically said "now manually write out your own kext and reference all the 0x3748278 0x78423987423987423 4239847 23984723948723948723498273489" then I gave up for a while.

After getting it all working and sleep mode and all that finally working flash and my onboard audio just wouldn't work no matter what I did so I gave up and undid it all.

Process is an awful lot straight forward apart from the error i am getting!! :mad:

Just can't work it out!! Can boot into my Yoemite instal with -x on boot screen from USB but just can't do a normal reboot and boot from SSD I have Yosemite installed on!! Grrrrrr

frozenfrozen

I don't think I ever had that error. I removed all other drives bar the one I was installing on, mostly so I couldn't accidentally break my windows install. But it was basically a case of booting from the usb, installing osx to the ssd and booting with a flag that stopped it from freaking out at my gpu. when you boot up onto the ssd do you see the os selection thing? if not you probably didn't do the multibeast bit right and should try it again from that point

BobbyT28

frozenfrozen wrote: »

I don't think I ever had that error. I removed all other drives bar the one I was installing on, mostly so I couldn't accidentally break my windows install. But it was basically a case of booting from the usb, installing osx to the ssd and booting with a flag that stopped it from freaking out at my gpu. when you boot up onto the ssd do you see the os selection thing? if not you probably didn't do the multibeast bit right and should try it again from that point

I am at the point where I can only boot using USB. So when I boot up PC I see USB and SSD that I install Yosemite (Labelled Yosemite) I then have to press -x and select Yosemite install, this affectingly removes the multibeast options a selected previously and lets me start again.

frozenfrozen

hm ok I'm not really sure I could give good advice since I didn't run into an issue like that.

Maybe have a look at http://www.macbreaker.com/2014/11/how-to-use-multibeast-7-yosemite-guide.html if you haven't already

also go through http://www.tonymacx86.com/yosemite-desktop-guides/143976-unibeast-install-os-x-yosemite-any-supported-intel-based-pc.html again and make sure you've definitely done all of the steps just in case you might have messed up before

boot0 error page too (I know you linked from this earlier but just to have all the links in one place) http://www.tonymacx86.com/general-help/65706-boot0-error-official-guide.html

BobbyT28

frozenfrozen wrote: »

hm ok I'm not really sure I could give good advice since I didn't run into an issue like that.

Maybe have a look at http://www.macbreaker.com/2014/11/how-to-use-multibeast-7-yosemite-guide.html if you haven't already

also go through http://www.tonymacx86.com/yosemite-desktop-guides/143976-unibeast-install-os-x-yosemite-any-supported-intel-based-pc.html again and make sure you've definitely done all of the steps just in case you might have messed up before

boot0 error page too (I know you linked from this earlier but just to have all the links in one place) http://www.tonymacx86.com/general-help/65706-boot0-error-official-guide.html

Sorted!

This guide fixed my issue. ufi partition problem. Rebooted twice now with out an issue.

http://www.tonymacx86.com/general-help/115818-install-bootloader-extra-efi-partition.html

Now to optimizing OS X. Any tips?

Thanks agin guy's for all the support in this. All in all it wasn't that bad of a install. The boot0 had me for a while and was starting to get fustrated. Thank god I found this. Happened to come across the above link in this thread:

http://www.tonymacx86.com/general-help/65706-boot0-error-official-guide-34.html

Might be back on soon after I try to install drivers etc, whats the best way to do this?

Regards,
BobbyT28

frozenfrozen

I never got to the stage you're at so can help even less than before, for optimising there's not much that needs doing other than just getting all the features working properly. did you get a kext that supports your motherboards sound and network interfaces? If not then that would be the place to start and get that fully functional

BobbyT28

frozenfrozen wrote: »

I never got to the stage you're at so can help even less than before, for optimising there's not much that needs doing other than just getting all the features working properly. did you get a kext that supports your motherboards sound and network interfaces? If not then that would be the place to start and get that fully functional

Not sure if I got Kext or not? Is that something I have to download separate?

frozenfrozen

BobbyT28 wrote: »

Not sure if I got Kext or not? Is that something I have to download separate?

kexts are just like config files for unibeat or multibeast can't remember which and they tell it what components your computer has so you can use them. just quickly looking at tonymac now though it looks like nobody uses them anymore so they may have been completely replaced with something else

BobbyT28

frozenfrozen wrote: »

kexts are just like config files for unibeat or multibeast can't remember which and they tell it what components your computer has so you can use them. just quickly looking at tonymac now though it looks like nobody uses them anymore so they may have been completely replaced with something else

So I have been playing around with this for the last few days. No issues booting using Chimera.

The issues I have at the moment:

No audio (Installed ALC892) I can airplay to my surround sound in the room so thats ok for the time being!!

The resolution doesn't look amazing. I followed Tonymac's guide and didn't tick Intel HD grphics driver when setting it up. Can I just open Chimera and select audio and graphics and install them again without installing anything else? Don't wan to ruin setup.

iMessage not working, I have followed one guide but have been unable to get it working.

I heard that clover is much better at getting things working from the get go, so I was going to ,make a clover bootable USB and try it out? Is it striaght forward?

When I boot with Clover how the hell do I keep this as my boot loader and remove chimera? Is it just a case of removing boot file from EFI partition and copying all the files from Clover bootable USB drive to the EFI partition?

Thanks again for all the help guys,

BobbyT28

BobbyT28

Hi,

Wanted to try out Clover bootloader as they say it is better for getting iMessage working etc.

Installed Clover on EFI partition Yosemite HDD along side boot folder which is Chemira (i believe).

How do I get clover to boot Yosemite instead of Chimera?

BobbyT28

goz83

Very interesting thread. I just completed a build with windows as my OS. Why do you want 2 operating systems anyway? The only benefit I can think of for me trying this, is having Facetime installed (if it was possible) to have on the big screen.

Do your old files and systems work OK with the mac os, aside from the sound and visual issues you are currently having.

BobbyT28

goz83 wrote: »

Very interesting thread. I just completed a build with windows as my OS. Why do you want 2 operating systems anyway? The only benefit I can think of for me trying this, is having Facetime installed (if it was possible) to have on the big screen.

Do your old files and systems work OK with the mac os, aside from the sound and visual issues you are currently having.

Purely as a hobby! I wantd to see how it would run on my build. I have to say I am well impressed and if I can thinker out the little issues with imessage and graphcs card I can see myself using this as my daily driver.

My setup as of now is.

Setup
1 x SSD for Windows 7 os
1 x SSD with OS X Yosemite

1 x 1TB HDD for Windows
1 x 2TB HDD for Yosemite (It's the only drive I had spare)

At the moment they are not dual boot per say. To switch in between Os's I just have to go into BIOS and change boot order (I have windows drives disconnected at the moment while I setup OS X)! nothing major. I am sure that there is a way to do this through Chimera that I haven't looked into.

If you are interested in doing this I would recommend it, a bit tidious at the start with errors and Kernal panics etc. but once you get booted with Chimera you are nearly home.

I am trying to switch from booting with Chimera to Clover (Hoping someone here can fingure out why the problem I am having). From reading the forums, Clover is better at setting it up from the get go and your imessage and facetime work with out having to tinker too much. Use clover if you decide to do a Hackintosh.

Regards,
BobbyT28

BobbyT28

Update:

I got Clover install on USB and can boot using this. But for some reason I am unable to boot from SSD. I followed all the guides but just can't figure it out!

This is the guide I followed:

http://www.tonymacx86.com/yosemite-desktop-guides/144426-how-install-os-x-yosemite-using-clover.html

I can boot from USB so I just copied the files from clover on US to EFI partition on my HDD where Yosemite is installed.

Still no luck!!

Any iDeas?

Thanks,
BobbyT28

BobbyT28

Not sure if anyone is still reading this but anyway.

Got Clover installed and bootable from SSD. I think i messed up the EFI prtition on my SSD when trying to set it up. So this morning i did a fresh install using this guide:
http://www.tonymacx86.com/yosemite-desktop-guides/144426-how-install-os-x-yosemite-using-clover.html

I installed the custom BIOS settings onto Clover EFi on SSD. I will sort out audio and what not later. I can now boot from SSD :-)

Setup Time Machine to backup to my Synology.

Hope this has helped someone.

Regards,
BobbyT28

BobbyT28

Sorry for dragging up an old thread.

So I installed OSX and enjoyed that for a while then got bored with it! So have windows 10 installed now.

I was looking to upgrade a few parts so I could game a bit but also be able to continue using the PC for what i've been using it for before i.e Photoshop etc.

Also want to change the case for something a little smaller

Could you recommend the following upgrades that would enable me to game also? I think I may just need to change Grahics card as the PC is a good spec (I think)

I would also be selling the upgraded parts so I would be able to put this to new upgrades

CPU (If needed)
Graphics Card
Mobo (If needed)
RAM (Not sure I need to upgrade, could do it later)

Current setup:
Acer S240HLBID 24-inch Monitor

16GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL9

ASRock H87 Pro4, Sockel 1150, ATX

be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7

RAIJINTEK Aidos Heat pipe

Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 120GB SATA

Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA

Corsair Carbide 500R Micro ATX Midi Tower €100

Intel Xeon E3-1230V3 4x3.30GHz So1150 Box Haswell

MSI R9 270X GAMING 2G graphics card - Radeon R9 270X - 2 GB


Thanks in advance
BobbyT28

Digital Solitude

You could game fine on a 270X

BobbyT28

Digital Solitude wrote: »

You could game fine on a 270X

Hi Thanks,

I probably wasn't clear, I was looking to future proof. I haven't gamed on PC in years so a buit out of my depth on this. Would this be able to run GTA, COD, Rainbow six etc?

Xenoronin

At 1080p on medium graphics settings I think the 270X should still be grand. For future proofing, you came back a few months early. AMD are releasing their new cards soon which should be around the spec you are looking for. So as long as you don't mind dialling a few settings back, you can play all those games right now. Keep an eye on news of AMD Polaris.

If you aren't attached to AMD, the nvidia GTX 1070 comes out in a few weeks which will blast through those games. You can also go looking second hand on adverts.ie for some GTX970. Lots of people are jumping on the new cards so there are a wealth of them available. Still a very good card that will run those games at High/Ultra at 1080p.

BobbyT28

Xenoronin wrote: »

At 1080p on medium graphics settings I think the 270X should still be grand. For future proofing, you came back a few months early. AMD are releasing their new cards soon which should be around the spec you are looking for. So as long as you don't mind dialling a few settings back, you can play all those games right now. Keep an eye on news of AMD Polaris.

If you aren't attached to AMD, the nvidia GTX 1070 comes out in a few weeks which will blast through those games. You can also go looking second hand on adverts.ie for some GTX970. Lots of people are jumping on the new cards so there are a wealth of them available. Still a very good card that will run those games at High/Ultra at 1080p.

Cheers for all that info.

What about the the MSi 290x?

Xenoronin

so...thinking of upgrading my 750ti, should I go for a 390x as I planned or a 1070? assuming prices will be similar enough? (roughly..) or I might just wait for the new AMD cards.

Wait for new AMD cards, or go 1070.

1070 outperforms 390x by a large margin & sips >100W less power.

Directly from the 1080/1070 discussion thread. Hold the horses and you will get a much better card. Your PSU I can assume is probably a 500W. With the 390X (rebranded 290X) you will be really cutting it close on power requirements.

BobbyT28

Ok,

So I think i'll leave upgrading GPU, MOBO and CPU until later in the year.

But I would like to get a case with a Glass window in the side but smaller than case I have already:

Corsair CC-9011012-WW Carbide Series 500R Windowed Mid-Tower ATX Performance Computer Case

Any suggestions?



Thanks again for all the help
BobbyT28

Xenoronin

With a full ATX board, you wouldn't be getting much space saving by swapping the case, but I'll let others throw a few suggestions out there for you. I don't know enough cases to help. Looking at the case itself, it looks like it's pretty long. You might get some space savings there.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1399285/smallest-atx-case-possible
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/363939-28-smallest-full-sized-case

These threads might point you in the right direction.

BobbyT28

Xenoronin wrote: »

With a full ATX board, you wouldn't be getting much space saving by swapping the case, but I'll let others throw a few suggestions out there for you. I don't know enough cases to help. Looking at the case itself, it looks like it's pretty long. You might get some space savings there.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1399285/smallest-atx-case-possible
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/363939-28-smallest-full-sized-case

These threads might point you in the right direction.

Yeah it is very long. If I could make it short on height and lenght that would be great.

BobbyT28

What about this?

NZXT S340 White Steel ATX Mid Tower Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146189

Seems failry small compared to my one.

Corsair 500r 58.8 x 52.1 x 20.6
NZXT S340 17.51" x 7.87" x 17.00" (H x W x D)

IS that right? Would that fit a ATX board, it says it does!

Xenoronin

Buy from amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NZXT-S340-White-Tower-Case/dp/B00NZI69JU

Saves about 3" off the height and depth. Ever so slightly thinner.

I would recommend a black case. White is so pretty, but so hard to keep clean.

BobbyT28

Xenoronin wrote: »

Buy from amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NZXT-S340-White-Tower-Case/dp/B00NZI69JU

Saves about 3" off the height and depth. Ever so slightly thinner.

I would recommend a black case. White is so pretty, but so hard to keep clean.

Yeah, might bite the bullet and get that in black red.

Probably a stupid questions, but can I switch the window to the other side? I set my PC to the left of me beside a wall, so would be a shame not to be able to see the interior

Have a few components, that are red so could go nicely. Cheers.

Keep the suggestions coming

BobbyT28

I really like this,

Would this fit all my stuff??

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352055&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=PPSSBGDRYLXVJN-_-11-352-055-_-Product

BobbyT28

BobbyT28

THis is also nice, but prefer the one before

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Carbide-Mid-Tower-Performance-Computer/dp/B017XPP9KK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464766093&sr=8-3&keywords=Fractal+Design+Define+S