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Airline seat numbering; why are some letters missing?

  • 04-07-2015 5:56pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭


    Ok, maybe another stupid question, but why do some airlines skip some letters in their seat-numbering schemes, e.g. Iberia A346 below, which has no B, F, I or K?

    Iberia_Airbus_A340-600.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    FWVT wrote: »
    Ok, maybe another stupid question, but why do some airlines skip some letters in their seat-numbering schemes, e.g. Iberia A346 below, which has no B, F, I or K?
    ...........................


    I would hazard a guess and say it's so as to prevent confusion while boarding and to make cabin crews lives easier.

    i.e b sounds like c, d sounds like e so when a seat number is mentioned it's clear and unambiguous above the noise of passengers and the cabin noise.

    I might be wrong, complete shot in the dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭VG31


    I can't fully answer your question but I think airlines often have A for window, B for middle seat and C for aisle (and similarly J, K & L).
    Since there is no middle seats to left of the left aisle and to the right of the right aisle, the letter B is skipped (and K is skipped for the right-hand seats).
    If this numbering method is used it reduces confusion as A is always windows, C is always aisle etc.

    I'm not sure why the letter F is skipped but taking a guess it might be in case of aircraft with 5 seats between the aisles.

    I is usually skipped as it can be confused with the number 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭3rdDegree


    Another guess. Maybe it's to accommodate bigger (and maybe non-existing) aircraft. Let's say they want to accommodate a lettering system which can accommodate a craft with the columns of seats of 3, 6 and 3.

    Then for instance, A and C are always window and aisle on the left column, regardless of plane type.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,052 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Imagine a 10 seat across aircraft:
    ABC-DEFG-HKJ

    This narrows to 8 across further back
    AC-DEFG-HJ

    In First class it may only have 4 across.
    A-DG-J

    In Business class it has 6 across.
    AC-DG-HJ

    The same airline operates a narrow body B737/A320. It is 6 across.
    ABC-HKJ
    (This last exampe is a bit of a stretch perhaps?)

    All windows are A and J.
    All aisles are C,D,G,H.

    Easier to know what letter is what type of seat.

    I is never used as it looks too much like 1.


    This system differs from airline to airline but the underlying logic is the same. Pick a system that works on your entire fleet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    And of course no Row 13.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,193 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    FWVT wrote: »
    And of course no Row 13.

    Except airlines that do have it (EI being one)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Aer Lingus Regional /Stobart ATRs are A C D F


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    FWVT wrote: »
    And of course no Row 13.

    That's an American thing hence why Airbus operators can have a row 13


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,474 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    That's an American thing hence why Airbus operators can have a row 13

    Not like any US airlines have airbus aircraft...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Not like any US airlines have airbus aircraft...

    Of course they do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,193 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Of course they do.

    That's his point.

    The presence of not of a row 13 has nothing to do with the airframe manufacturer.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    L1011 wrote: »
    That's his point.

    The presence of not of a row 13 has nothing to do with the airframe manufacturer.

    Exactly. Lufthansa and Air France for example don't have a row 13 on their Airbus fleets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    L1011 wrote: »
    That's his point.

    The presence of not of a row 13 has nothing to do with the airframe manufacturer.

    Airbus, removal of 13 is customer option
    Boeing, customer option to have 13


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    Airbus, removal of 13 is customer option
    Boeing, customer option to have 13

    I think Lufthansa 320 fleet have no Row 17,think it's a German thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    Bussywussy wrote: »
    I think Lufthansa 320 fleet have no Row 17,think it's a German thing.

    They have no planes named "Hitler" too. Spooky! :)


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