Garda Harassment

fritzelly

Not sure of the law here so hoping someone can enlighten me.
Was outside the Czech Inn earlier, some eejit was being an a**hole with his bike on the road. An off duty Inspector turned up in his car and warned him and he ignored it so the fella phoned for support and arrested him.

He then followed up by dragging all the plastic glasses out of the people finishing their drinks and throwing it on the ground.

The arresting Inspector said you should have helped me subdue this person.
(not sure anyone is required to do this? Not that he needed help as the person was not being aggressive or anything)

Finally another Garda said to my friend and myself you will be arrested under section 8 of the public disorder act if you don't move away from the area - we were just standing there doing nothing but talking to a friend.

TheLastMohican

They just wanted you to Czech out

Bit ott, probably. Though right to stop drinking in a public place.

Harassment, ah get over yourself. If he starts phoning you at night, and stealing your jocks from the clothes line, then you can start wringing your hands.

kneemos

Drinking in public is against the law as is ignoring the instructions of a Guard to move away.
Plus I don't believe a word of your story.

degsie

How do you pull a plastic glass out of a person?

Iwasfrozen

degsie wrote: »

How do you pull a plastic glass out of a person?

Sounds painful.

DoYouEvenLift

At least you didn't instantly take out your phone and record it

suicide_circus

Drinking in a public place is probably the worst crime it is possible to commit. It is the death knell for civilization as we know it, for shame...FOR SHAAAAAAAMMMMEEE!

suicide_circus

suicide_circus wrote: »

Drinking in a public place is probably the worst crime it is possible to commit. It is the death knell for civilization as we know it, for shame...FOR SHAAAAAAAMMMMEEE!

And taking alcohol off people drinking in a public place and not issuing fines is the most heavy handed policing I have heard of. It is the death knell for law and order as we know it.

frostyjacks

Drinking in plastic glasses outside of a pub is hardly a public place. If you're still in the shadow of the premises then you shouldn't be threatened with arrest. It's not like taking a bag of cans down to the canal. Gardaí just throwing their weight around again.

John_D80

fritzelly wrote: »

Not sure of the law here so hoping someone can enlighten me.
Was outside the Czech Inn earlier, some eejit was being an a**hole with his bike on the road. An off duty Inspector turned up in his car and warned him and he ignored it so the fella phoned for support and arrested him.

He then followed up by dragging all the plastic glasses out of the people finishing their drinks and throwing it on the ground.

The arresting Inspector said you should have helped me subdue this person.
(not sure anyone is required to do this? Not that he needed help as the person was not being aggressive or anything)

Finally another Garda said to my friend and myself you will be arrested under section 8 of the public disorder act if you don't move away from the area - we were just standing there doing nothing but talking to a friend.

Is this only the first half of the tale'?? Can't see any evidence of harassment here.

Little CuChulainn

I have a feeling the Op is not the full story.

Cee-Jay-Cee

frostyjacks wrote: »

Drinking in plastic glasses outside of a pub is hardly a public place. If you're still in the shadow of the premises then you shouldn't be threatened with arrest. It's not like taking a bag of cans down to the canal. Gardaí just throwing their weight around again.

Once outside the door it's a public place as is being inside the premises for that matter. The public have right of access to it so it's a public place. Shadows don't count, anywhere, that's just plain ridiculous.

Drinking on the street is an offence, no if's ands or buts.

keysersoze0330

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I have a feeling the Op is not the full story.

He's only a bit part

Plates

They only did it under orders from Denis O'Brien.

Little CuChulainn

Plates wrote: »

They only did it under orders from Denis O'Brien.

Force people to drink more water by throwing away their beer.

realdanbreen

fritzelly wrote: »

Not sure of the law here so hoping someone can enlighten me.
Was outside the Czech Inn earlier, some eejit was being an a**hole with his bike on the road. An off duty Inspector turned up in his car and warned him and he ignored it so the fella phoned for support and arrested him.

He then followed up by dragging all the plastic glasses out of the people finishing their drinks and throwing it on the ground.

The arresting Inspector said you should have helped me subdue this person.
(not sure anyone is required to do this? Not that he needed help as the person was not being aggressive or anything)

Finally another Garda said to my friend and myself you will be arrested under section 8 of the public disorder act if you don't move away from the area - we were just standing there doing nothing but talking to a friend.

Sounds like a case for 'The Avengers' aka Claire Daly & Mick Wallace!

kneemos

frostyjacks wrote: »

Drinking in plastic glasses outside of a pub is hardly a public place. If you're still in the shadow of the premises then you shouldn't be threatened with arrest. It's not like taking a bag of cans down to the canal. Gardaí just throwing their weight around again.

Ha.The Sun had gone down.Your argument is mule.

Thephantomsmask

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Sounds painful.

Less so than 1 man, 1 jar I'd imagine.

wendell borton

Plates wrote: »

They only did it under orders from Denis O'Brien.

I believe he's also got the contract to build the the gardatron 3000 law enforcement unit.

frostyjacks

frostyjacks wrote: »

Drinking in plastic glasses outside of a pub is hardly a public place. If you're still in the shadow of the premises then you shouldn't be threatened with arrest. It's not like taking a bag of cans down to the canal. Gardaí just throwing their weight around again.

Oh I agree it may be ott, but either way it is certainly not harrassment, it's being a bit officious.

suicide_circus

Deleted User wrote: »

And taking alcohol off people drinking in a public place and not issuing fines is the most heavy handed policing I have heard of. It is the death knell for law and order as we know it.

Ah look, the gardai are only doing their jobs but what a waste of police time.

Vojera

fritzelly wrote: »

He then followed up by dragging all the plastic glasses out of the people finishing their drinks and throwing it on the ground.

You should have replied, "I'm afraid I'll have to arrest YOU for littering while in uniform" and then high-fived all the bystanders.

Buona Fortuna

frostyjacks wrote: »

Drinking in plastic glasses outside of a pub is hardly a public place. If you're still in the shadow of the premises then you shouldn't be threatened with arrest. It's not like taking a bag of cans down to the canal. Gardaí just throwing their weight around again.

No shadows at night - so everyone is guilty as charged.