America/ Canada/ Australia

IWJ

Nearly sure that I want to leave Ireland after I graduate. I had my heart set on the USA after spending 2 weeks there during TY.

However, now I'm considering Candida and Australia.

Anyone able to compare the standard of living, cost of living and pros/ cons of living in these countries?

Facts only please- no opinion.

P.S graduating in pure mathematics

ben.schlomo

IWJ wrote: »

Nearly sure that I want to leave Ireland after I graduate. I had my heart set on the USA after spending 2 weeks there during TY.

However, now I'm considering Candida and Australia.

Anyone able to compare the standard of living, cost of living and pros/ cons of living in these countries?

Facts only please- no opinion.

P.S graduating in pure mathematics

Main con of that is the cost of the cream to clear it up.

.Henry Sellers.

IWJ wrote: »

However, now I'm considering Candida and Australia.

Go to Candida, you'll have a great time, Thrush me.

Hello there Mr, OP

After hours is a discussion forum, not an information forum.

If you want facts only, you might want a different forum to post in.

IWJ

Hahaha to be expected I suppose.

Junkyard Tom

IWJ wrote: »

Facts only please- no opinion.

In my opinion facts are overrated.

IWJ

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hello there Mr, OP

After hours is a discussion forum, not an information forum.

If you want facts only, you might want a different forum to post in.

Cool. I'm open to facts and opinion.

IWJ

IWJ wrote: »

Cool. I'm open to facts and opinion.

Fact: Canada is closerer than Australia.

That may be a pro or a con, that is up to you.

ben.schlomo

IWJ wrote: »

Cool. I'm open to facts and opinion.

Opinions on yeast infections or........?

cml387

By god you got a free third level education here and you'll damn well stay till you pay it back.

IWJ

Which country would have more opportunities?

corner of hells

Canada , they have nice national anthem. My friend is from Canada and she looks nice.

Oh Canada ... oh Canada , something something something... its a bit like that.

ben.schlomo

IWJ wrote: »

Which country would have more opportunities?

For yeast infections id say Australia given the amount of Irish already there.

IWJ

cml387 wrote: »

By god you got a free third level education here and you'll damn well stay till you pay it back.

Nope, but if I plan to have kids, I'll come back so they can avail of 'free' education too! :P

cml387

You spent two weeks in the states (all expenses paid no doubt) and now you want to live there.
Are all your life choices so well researched?

ygolometsipe

IWJ wrote: »

P.S graduating in pure mathematics

I am fairly certain they don't have maths in Australia.
And Canada only allows Applied maths.

Gongoozler

cml387 wrote: »

You spent two weeks in the states (all expenses paid no doubt) and now you want to live there.
Are all your life choices so well researched?

He's looking for AH to make his decision for him, so yeah. ... clearly

sid waddell

ben.schlomo wrote: »

For yeast infections id say Australia given the amount of Irish already there.

Only if you can rise to the occasion.

.Henry Sellers.

ygolometsipe wrote: »

I am fairly certain they don't have maths in Australia.
And Canada only allows Applied maths.

They've beer maths in Australia.

sid waddell

.Henry Sellers. wrote: »

They've beer maths in Australia.

It's a little known fact that Oasis's Be Here Now was released as "Beer Now" for the Australian market.

For Forks Sake

corner of hells wrote: »

Canada , they have nice national anthem. My friend is from Canada and she looks nice.

Oh Canada ... oh Canada , something something something... its a bit like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

Junkyard Tom

Less stingy and teethy things that want to eat/poison you in Canadia and a shorter flight home.

foggy_lad

Probably less chance of being shot by the police in Canada or Australia

Iwasfrozen

IWJ wrote: »

Nearly sure that I want to leave Ireland after I graduate. I had my heart set on the USA after spending 2 weeks there during TY.

However, now I'm considering Candida and Australia.

Anyone able to compare the standard of living, cost of living and pros/ cons of living in these countries?

Facts only please- no opinion.

P.S graduating in pure mathematics

What are your plans? You have a degree in pure maths. Ok. What industry do you want to work in?

IWJ

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

What are your plans? You have a degree in pure maths. Ok. What industry do you want to work in?

I don't have a degree yet. Still a bit to go.

With regards to career options I'm thinking along the lines of banking/ finance. Management consultancy is another option.

Do you have any experience living in any of the mentioned countries?

Iwasfrozen

IWJ wrote: »

I don't have a degree yet. Still a bit to go.

With regards to career options I'm thinking along the lines of banking/ finance. Management consultancy is another option.

Do you have any experience living in any of the mentioned countries?

I don't but I do have experience in finance and I hold a similar degree. My advice would be to work in Ireland for a while to build up experience and if possible transfer to whatever country you choose through your company.

That way you have a stable job in a familiar company and a safe revenue source when you do move over. But definitely figure out exactly what industry you want to work in and complete any training / further education you may need before you move over.

Faith

You've picked some mighty big countries and it's hard to give a global representation of each. From my experience, the USA has the lowest cost of living of the three, but arguably the lowest quality of life. Healthcare is a joke unless you get good coverage by your employer, gun violence is a huge issue and it's extremely difficult to get into the country. That being said, there are some amazing places in the states and if you were to get a good job with good benefits, you could have a great life.

Australia is SO far away. Don't underestimate the mental impact of being so far from home. It takes over a day to travel from Ireland to Oz. Cost of living is very high, opportunities are plentiful and the weather is great. Lots of things are lurking and trying to kill you.

Canada can have really extreme weather or really pleasant mild weather, depending on where you live. Opportunities are relatively plentiful, but the dollar is taking a huge dive and some are saying a recession is coming. Cost of living is really high and you haven't a hope of owning affordable property in many of the cities. Crime rates are very low, healthcare is socialised but car insurance is really high.

Lots more can be said, but that's an overview.

The Dogs Bollix

Canada is closer to the USA. Where you want to go. You can visit anytime you want. Take a weekend break across the border.

johnny osbourne

have u considered cork?

Wompa1

Move to Hawaii. It's in between mainland USA Canada and Australia AND it's so cheap!

uch

They're all sh1te holes, go to Europe, where it all happens!

Wompa1

uch wrote: »

They're all sh1te holes, go to Europe, where it all happens!

Yeah, no sh1te holes in Europe!

uch

Wompa1 wrote: »

Yeah, no sh1te holes in Europe!

Loads but at least you have a choice of shít instead of just the same shíte wherever you go!

Wompa1

uch wrote: »

Loads but at least you have a choice of shít instead of just the same shíte wherever you go!

I just drove up to Prescott, Arizona today. It was really, really nice. Lots of choice of local owned restaurants and pubs. If you go outside of the cities, you'll get more choice. Small businesses can't afford the cost of doing business in large cities.

Your Superior

You won't be eligible to live in any of those countries, OP. A degree means very little unless it is backed by experience in a job on the relevant skilled occupations list. In fact, for the US it's even harder...

SeaDaily

Your Superior wrote: »

You won't be eligible to live in any of those countries, OP.

And you're basing this on what exactly?

Your Superior

SeaDaily wrote: »

And you're basing this on what exactly?

The immigration rules for those countries. Canada and Australia use a points system, which relies on you having a job on the skilled occupations list, with relevant experience and qualifications. The U.S. Relies on you needing to find employment there which cannot be reasonably filled by an equally qualified US resident, and for your employer to sponsor you, at an expense to them.

FTA69

Faith wrote: »

From my experience, the USA has the lowest cost of living of the three, but the lowest quality of life. Healthcare is a joke unless you get good coverage by your employer, gun violence is a huge issue .

People always raise the gun issue in the US but the chances of it affecting this lad is pretty low to be honest. Unless he's moving to Compton or someplace, it's doubtful a young Irish graduate is going to be dodging bullets on a weekly basis.

Wompa1

FTA69 wrote: »

People always raise the gun issue in the US but the chances of it affecting this lad is pretty low to be honest. Unless he's moving to Compton or someplace, it's doubtful a young Irish graduate is going to be dodging bullets on a weekly basis.

Two people have been murdered within 2 miles of my apartment in the last few weeks. It's a bit crazy, in fairness. I'm not in the worst of area's either.

FTA69

Wompa1 wrote: »

Two people have been murdered within 2 miles of my apartment in the last few weeks. It's a bit crazy, in fairness. I'm not in the worst of area's either.

I'm in the same boat in London, however the vast majority of killings have been young ethnic minority youths who have been targeted as a result of gang violence or "postcode wars", it isn't wholly indiscriminate whereupon everyone and anyone is in danger of gun and knife crime at all times.

IWJ

Faith wrote: »

You've picked some mighty big countries and it's hard to give a global representation of each. From my experience, the USA has the lowest cost of living of the three, but arguably the lowest quality of life. Healthcare is a joke unless you get good coverage by your employer, gun violence is a huge issue and it's extremely difficult to get into the country. That being said, there are some amazing places in the states and if you were to get a good job with good benefits, you could have a great life.

Australia is SO far away. Don't underestimate the mental impact of being so far from home. It takes over a day to travel from Ireland to Oz. Cost of living is very high, opportunities are plentiful and the weather is great. Lots of things are lurking and trying to kill you.

Canada can have really extreme weather or really pleasant mild weather, depending on where you live. Opportunities are relatively plentiful, but the dollar is taking a huge dive and some are saying a recession is coming. Cost of living is really high and you haven't a hope of owning affordable property in many of the cities. Crime rates are very low, healthcare is socialised but car insurance is really high.

Lots more can be said, but that's an overview.

I take it you've spent some time in all three countries? Can you give any more information? Which country do you like the most and why?

Wompa1 wrote: »

Move to Hawaii. It's in between mainland USA Canada and Australia AND it's so cheap!

Hawaii does seem amazing. How long were you there for? From your posts I take it that you're either on holidays or you're settled there. Which one?

uch wrote: »

They're all sh1te holes, go to Europe, where it all happens!

Well if all else fails the UK is always an option. But I just feel like I need to get out of Ireland and experience life in another country. Plus, lets be honest, outside of Dublin, there isn't much going on here.

Your Superior wrote: »

The immigration rules for those countries. Canada and Australia use a points system, which relies on you having a job on the skilled occupations list, with relevant experience and qualifications. The U.S. Relies on you needing to find employment there which cannot be reasonably filled by an equally qualified US resident, and for your employer to sponsor you, at an expense to them.

Ya just briefly googled that. The part where you need to find employment which cannot be filled by an equally qualified US resident is a tough one no?

Is Canada different though? I do know of someone who got a job in Canada within a year (pretty sure it was less) of graduating as a Dentist.

Merces

Canada. America is far too right wing.

SeaDaily

Your Superior wrote: »

The immigration rules for those countries. Canada and Australia use a points system, which relies on you having a job on the skilled occupations list, with relevant experience and qualifications. The U.S. Relies on you needing to find employment there which cannot be reasonably filled by an equally qualified US resident, and for your employer to sponsor you, at an expense to them.

Anyone can go to Canada to work for two years as long as they aren't a criminal.

Berserker

Are you any good with a gun OP? If not then America (USA) isn't the place for you.

retalivity

Canada & Canadians are as dull as dishwater. I stuck it out there for 3 years before moving back
America has waaaay more poverty and general ****tiness than I had ever imagined. And the likes of NY and LA are just vapid soulless holes - have no interest in ever going back to the states.
Never been to Oz so cant really comment

Berserker

Merces wrote: »

Canada. America is far too right wing.

Yeah, NYC & Boston, the kingpins of the USA for the Irish are so "right wing". :rolleyes: