Do you still buy the Journal?

Siamsa Sessions

I find myself looking at http://www.agriland.ie/ more and more over the past few weeks, and am wondering now if I might just keep the €2.80 in my pocket this week instead of buying the Journal.

I know tis up to me to decide what I might or might not miss out on, but I'm just interested in what others think?

Sam Kade

I gave up buying it for the last 10 years and I can survive grand without it Back when I used to religiously buy it every week I used to only read a few pages or maybe only a quick look through it.

foxy farmer

Used to buy it every week up till last August. Miss it? No. Have only bought it twice since. Once for the Ploughing supplement and second for the Punchestown Machinery Show supplement. €145 a year plus all the paper to get rid of. Used to do the crossword in the country living supplement while waiting for dinner.

agriman27

I still buy it every week, I always feel like I might miss something if I don't have it, or someone is sure to say to me 'did ya not see the bit in the journal about that' ha ha!. I do check agriland regularly I think it's very handy too.

whelan2

i buy it, my mother does the crossword every week, some weeks i wouldnt open it at all

CallofGuti

whelan2 wrote: »

i buy it, my mother does the crossword every week, some weeks i wouldnt open it at all

I'm fan of both agriland and the fj. Agriland gets stuff up fast and really like their opinion pieces, I feel they should more of those. I've said on this place before that I'm journalist for a regional paper myself and at that level I prefer the journal. Maybe I'm biased towards papers in general but I think they are very good as papers go. Still, agriland are a great example of how to get good content up there fast in a way that's easy to read. It's exactly what I need but it's largely press releases.

Siamsa Sessions

Thanks for the replies - I kinda agree with everything said above.

Agriland is good, but you'd be afraid you'd miss something if you didn't get the Journal.

Both seem to be fairly decent publications, as newspapers go these days.

I'll probably get the Journal for a few more weeks anyway and decide then

on the river

Sometimes. Useful articles in it.

Username John

The journal has ok articles every now and then. But a lot of the time - it's the same articles rehashed every year, for that time of year. Very little new information in there - well, that interests me

Sam Kade

I never heard of agriland until this thread, some interesting stories on it

Good loser

I always read Journal cover to cover.

oxjkqg

only but it just to have something to read with the breakfast or lunch on a thurs, i see d dairy magazine in the shop this morning so thats todays reading sorted

Future Farmer

I follow Agriland fairly religiously, I have bought the Journal about twice in the last year.

It's all online now & the IFJ are performing poorly IMO.

ganmo

Future Farmer wrote: »

I follow Agriland fairly religiously, I have bought the Journal about twice in the last year.

It's all online now & the IFJ are performing poorly IMO.

Their online stuff could be improved alot
One thing that they could do is have access to past/historical articles

Cow Porter

CallofGuti wrote: »

I'm fan of both agriland and the fj. Agriland gets stuff up fast and really like their opinion pieces, I feel they should more of those. I've said on this place before that I'm journalist for a regional paper myself and at that level I prefer the journal. Maybe I'm biased towards papers in general but I think they are very good as papers go. Still, agriland are a great example of how to get good content up there fast in a way that's easy to read. It's exactly what I need but it's largely press releases.

+1 on need for more opinion pieces, they seem to be re hashing alot of stuff from teagasc newsletters

howdee

I buy the journal every week but there is far too much advertising and scaremongering in it. Agriland is good and the app is very handy.

oldsmokey

CallofGuti wrote: »

I'm fan of both agriland and the fj. Agriland gets stuff up fast and really like their opinion pieces, I feel they should more of those. I've said on this place before that I'm journalist for a regional paper myself and at that level I prefer the journal. Maybe I'm biased towards papers in general but I think they are very good as papers go. Still, agriland are a great example of how to get good content up there fast in a way that's easy to read. It's exactly what I need but it's largely press releases.

Its interesting to get another journalist perspective - I get it every week, some decent articles, there's some silly stuff in it -I dunno how Gerald Potterton keeps his slot, largely drivel, Michael Moroney is pitiful - car test?the man couldn't write a piece on a corkscrew, and at the risk of sounding like a dick, some of the grammar used, particularly by Darren Carty is 6th class stuff - does anyone proof-read stuff before publication? I know I'm probably in the minority about this, but surely the Journal should be held up as an example? rant over

farawaygrass

oldsmokey wrote: »

Its interesting to get another journalist perspective - I get it every week, some decent articles, there's some silly stuff in it -I dunno how Gerald Potterton keeps his slot, largely drivel, Michael Moroney is pitiful - car test?the man couldn't write a piece on a corkscrew, and at the risk of sounding like a dick, some of the grammar used, particularly by Darren Carty is 6th class stuff - does anyone proof-read stuff before publication? I know I'm probably in the minority about this, but surely the Journal should be held up as an example? rant over

Your right about Gerald potteron but I have to admit I enjoy his article a lot! Maybe he should get a different page and put someone else in tillage section.
I also like the farming independent a lot

patsy_mccabe

Sam Kade wrote: »

I never heard of agriland until this thread, some interesting stories on it

I think that's the whole pointy of this thread.

patsy_mccabe

Sam Kade wrote: »

I never heard of agriland until this thread, some interesting stories on it

I think that's the whole pointy of this thread. If you know what I mean.

Greengrass1

I think the farmer rights section should have a different farmer every yr.
how long has Gerald potteron being doing it? Since the 80s and still hasn't ran out of things to say
the independent is gone to a piece of crud. Nothing at all in it. Always have the worst case scenario storeys. And there dairy farmer columnist? Hardly a pin up guy for lads to look towards for inspiration

WheatenBriar

I read the Wicklow people ,the Gorey Guardian, the farmers journal and a selection of UK papers at the desk where they put dozens of them out handily at my local Tesco while the wife is shopping, many others do,it's free and the area is known locally as the library for its popularity

Arrow in the Knee

When your in Tesco you can read the papers and magazines for half an hour and then walk away.

IMO I think the Farmers Journal is the best weekly farming paper when compared with NI paper Farm Week, Farmers Weekly, The Scottish Farmer, Farmers Guardian and the Indo farming supplement.

And no, I don't get them every week.

Sam Kade

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I think that's the whole pointy of this thread.

No the point of the thread is whether you buy the journal or not

Reggie.

I buy it every week as I'd be afraid that I'd miss something

bogman_bass

I get it every week and to be fair I read it front to back.

Yes there is some repitition and isn't exactly unbiased but it's 10 times better than anything in the UK IMO

rangler1

Reggie. wrote: »

I buy it every week as I'd be afraid that I'd miss something

like 150.000 others.
I've had a lot of involvement with Darren over the last few years, even shared a room with him in france this week on a bord bia trip.
I find him very good, he really has moulded into the job and works hard at any Farm events that he's involved with. People don't take into account their contribution to farming apart from the Journal, I told someone on here to send a CAP query to peter young and it was answered in a couple of days.
Don't know about grammar as I wasn't long in school

Bullocks

rangler1 wrote: »

like 150.000 others.
I've had a lot of involvement with Darren over the last few years, even shared a room with him in france this week on a bord bia trip.
I find him very good, he really has moulded into the job and works hard at any Farm events that he's involved with. People don't take into account their contribution to farming apart from the Journal, I told someone on here to send a CAP query to peter young and it was answered in a couple of days.
Don't know about grammar as I wasn't long in school

What were ye doing in France for BB ?
You mightnt have been long in school but I'd say you picked up plenty of learning since then

Arrow in the Knee

Sure the French women love farmers in the Eric Cantona telly ad.

whelan2

Of the circulation figures how many of them are free copies?

rangler1

Bullocks wrote: »

What were ye doing in France for BB ?
You mightnt have been long in school but I'd say you picked up plenty of learning since then

We have facilitated BB with foreogn visitors. Had a very interesting trip Limousin centre., 2 farms, factory and a live export centre. Nice trip. In green farmers country(Devon Inn Hotel) tonight on the way to a wedding. I'd buy him a pint if he's doing nothing and comes in. That's saying something from a tight fecker

Nekarsulm

Wife brings it from work most weeks..........
She has to have it back for Monday cause they're a bit tight like that.....

frazzledhome

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Wife brings it from work most weeks..........
She has to have it back for Monday cause they're a bit tight like that.....

That post gave me some laugh, cheers:):)

Base price

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Wife brings it from work most weeks..........
She has to have it back for Monday cause they're a bit tight like that.....

Go on make my day - does she work in the County of Cavan :rolleyes:

liam7831

Its really tough if a farmer thinks about how much he can save in the year by not buying the journal

Nekarsulm

Base price wrote: »

Go on make my day - does she work in the County of Cavan :rolleyes:

She does not. She has to endure both jackeens and corkonions on a daily basis. In the big schmoke.

Base price

Nekarsulm wrote: »

She does not. She has to endure both jackeens and corkonions on a daily basis. In the big schmoke.

Ah nothing wrong with us Dubs but the Corkonions seem to think they are more important than everyone else :rolleyes:
Having said that my paternal grandparents are from Dublin and Cork respectively and my maternal ones are from Longford and Cavan.
That's some mix in the cauldron and I consider myself to be relatively sane

Base price

I used to buy the Journal every week up until a couple of years ago. Most of the time I only read "The Dealers" page, pedigree news and Irish Horse pages.
Now that there is so much instant information on-line I only buy it every now and again or when there is a particular article that I wish to read.

darragh_haven

rangler1 wrote: »

like 150.000 others.
I've had a lot of involvement with Darren over the last few years, even shared a room with him in france this week on a bord bia trip.
I find him very good, he really has moulded into the job and works hard at any Farm events that he's involved with. People don't take into account their contribution to farming apart from the Journal, I told someone on here to send a CAP query to peter young and it was answered in a couple of days.
Don't know about grammar as I wasn't long in school

Were you on the airport bus going to the red card park with Darren. I was sitting next to one yer group and said ye were just back from France

Reggie.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

She does not. She has to endure both jackeens and corkonions on a daily basis. In the big schmoke.

Would she take its from a certain library

Username John

Nekarsulm wrote: »

She does not. She has to endure both jackeens and corkonions on a daily basis. In the big schmoke.

I wouldn't normally be Into spelling, but I feel I should point out...

Cork onions are onions grown in Cork.
Corkonians are people from Cork

But - maybe tis I am wrong, and your good wife does indeed work with a load o onions from Cork

Base price

Username John wrote: »

I wouldn't normally be Into spelling, but I feel I should point out...

Cork onions are onions grown in Cork.
Corkonians are people from Cork

But - maybe tis I am wrong, and your good wife does indeed work with a load o onions from Cork

I thought they were the same

Nekarsulm

Reggie. wrote: »

Would she take its from a certain library

Yes. A fairly , eh, central one.

Reggie.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Yes. A fairly , eh, central one.

Nekarsulm

Username John wrote: »

I wouldn't normally be Into spelling, but I feel I should point out...

Cork onions are onions grown in Cork.
Corkonians are people from Cork

But - maybe tis I am wrong, and your good wife does indeed work with a load o onions from Cork

Well John, I stand corrected!
(But some she has to work with are very bitter )

Sam Kade

liam7831 wrote: »

Its really tough if a farmer thinks about how much he can save in the year by not buying the journal

I presume that you know that you can put the price of it as an expense towards tax.

rangler1

darragh_haven wrote: »

Were you on the airport bus going to the red card park with Darren. I was sitting next to one yer group and said ye were just back from France

Yea, I was, that car park is very reasonable compared with the shortterm one

fastrac

New blood badly wanted .Same old faces turning up everywhere.

Muckit

rangler1 wrote: »

like 150.000 others.
I've had a lot of involvement with Darren over the last few years, even shared a room with him in france this week on a bord bia trip.

2 sheep farmers bunking up together, only in a hotel instead of a tent!

frazzledhome

The latest edition of The Irish Dairy Farmer is excellent. It's an IFJ publication.

Deepsouthwest

frazzledhome wrote: »

The latest edition of The Irish Dairy Farmer is excellent. It's an IFJ publication.

Bought that here, but haven't read it yet, def some night this wk if I can give the phone a rest. The earlier editions were well worth reading as well. The pictures in the first one were a bit unusual though, not that it mattered.