How does a Guard know...

davo2001

I apologise if this is in the wrong forum, there might be a simple answer but I cannot find it.

If you are stopped by a Guard and they ask for your licence, assuming you have a full licence how do they know if you had had it longer than 2 years? I know the issue date (4b) states the date of issue for the current licence but how would they know if you didn't have a previously issued one?

salamanca22

davo2001 wrote: »

I apologise if this is in the wrong forum, there might be a simple answer but I cannot find it.

If you are stopped by a Guard and they ask for your licence, assuming you have a full licence how do they know if you had had it longer than 2 years? I know the issue date (4b) states the date of issue for the current licence but how would they know if you didn't have a previously issued one?

The reason I ask is that I am in my 30's and recently pasted the test but don't really want to put up N plates :-P

They will ask you, if you lie you are committing an offence and if they don't believe you they will look it up and you will be in trouble.

Put the plates up, they do not interfere with your driving and allow most drivers to give you the extra clearance while driving you might need while you learn.

davo2001

So, to answer my question, it is not stated on the licence itself? Thanks.

mickdw

davo2001 wrote: »

I apologise if this is in the wrong forum, there might be a simple answer but I cannot find it.

If you are stopped by a Guard and they ask for your licence, assuming you have a full licence how do they know if you had had it longer than 2 years? I know the issue date (4b) states the date of issue for the current licence but how would they know if you didn't have a previously issued one?

The reason I ask is that I am in my 30's and recently pasted the test but don't really want to put up N plates :-P

Thats actually a good question.
Having checked my licence, there is nothing to say it's my second that I can see.
still, rules is rules as they say.

Del2005

davo2001 wrote: »

I apologise if this is in the wrong forum, there might be a simple answer but I cannot find it.

If you are stopped by a Guard and they ask for your licence, assuming you have a full licence how do they know if you had had it longer than 2 years? I know the issue date (4b) states the date of issue for the current licence but how would they know if you didn't have a previously issued one?

The reason I ask is that I am in my 30's and recently pasted the test but don't really want to put up N plates :-P

It says when each endorsement was added to your licence right beside the picture of it. Stick the N up.

secman

davo2001 wrote: »

I apologise if this is in the wrong forum, there might be a simple answer but I cannot find it.

If you are stopped by a Guard and they ask for your licence, assuming you have a full licence how do they know if you had had it longer than 2 years? I know the issue date (4b) states the date of issue for the current licence but how would they know if you didn't have a previously issued one?

The reason I ask is that I am in my 30's and recently pasted the test but don't really want to put up N plates :-P

Well done on passing the test , don't fck it up now.... put the N plate on.... tell yourself it's not there ....soon you will forget its there
.. and in the meantime safe driving to you.

davo2001

secman wrote: »

Well done on passing the test , don't fck it up now.... put the N plate on.... tell yourself it's not there ....soon you will forget its there
.. and in the meantime safe driving to you.

Good advise, thanks for the answers.

James Forde

It's a ridiculous rule.

Pass test 31/07/14 - No N plate

Pass test 01/08/14 - N Plate

The law is an ass - does little to serve the driver except more impatience from morons who see a car with a plate on it.

Hasmunch

I got a new licence this year and the Valid from date on the back didn't change.

So while the front says; Date of Issue 30-12-14 & Date of Expiry 22-12-24
The back states; Date of Issue 20/04/04 & Date of Expiry 22/12/24.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

James Forde wrote: »

It's a ridiculous rule.

Pass test 31/07/14 - No N plate

Pass test 01/08/14 - N Plate

The law is an ass - does little to serve the driver except more impatience from morons who see a car with a plate on it.

We shouldve got them sooner with the NI version of "R" plates.

Just because you passed a test doesn't mean you're suddenly an expert on the topic.

Still plenty to learn and get used to. I agree with the plates.

mickdw

Hasmunch wrote: »

I got a new licence this year and the Valid from date on the back didn't change.

So while the front says; Date of Issue 30-12-14 & Date of Expiry 22-12-24
The back states; Date of Issue 20/04/04 & Date of Expiry 22/12/24.

Jesus you are right. I must be blind as I looked a few mins ago and didn't see that.
Clear as can be there when licence was first issued.

vandriver

Mine says valid from 2000....even though I passed my test in 1990

GvidoR

Luckily enough I did my test before the N plates kicked in. I would have hated having them on my car for 2 years.

goochy

Be proud u passed ur test . Not the same as l plates

goochy

Be proud u passed ur test . Not the same as l plates

goochy

Be proud u passed ur test . Not the same as l plates

goochy

Be proud u passed ur test . Not the same as l plates

goochy

Be proud u passed ur test . Not the same as l plates

davo2001

Sorry, I didn't get that, can you repeat it please? :pac::pac::pac:

Pov06

They are the most annoying thing ever.

I get people overtaking me all over the shop and then driving slowly in front to the point where I need to overtake them.

It's like people see L or N plates and they think they should be going faster because they have more experience...

I had a guy in a Golf beeping at me driving right behind my a*se. He overtook me and then had to stop for red lights. He was there revving his engine at the lights and then stalled it as the lights turned green

dingding

On mine it gives a date beside each type of license when it was first issued.

JohnBoy26

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

We shouldve got them sooner with the NI version of "R" plates.

Just because you passed a test doesn't mean you're suddenly an expert on the topic.

Still plenty to learn and get used to. I agree with the plates.

How will 2 stickers make you a safer driver though? How will they make you learn any more about the road. Imo they serve no purpose only to draw unwanted attention to the car, they are a daft idea imo.

With or without them you will be learning and for a lot longer than 2 years. Also No one is an expert driver.

CiniO

davo2001 wrote: »

I apologise if this is in the wrong forum, there might be a simple answer but I cannot find it.

If you are stopped by a Guard and they ask for your licence, assuming you have a full licence how do they know if you had had it longer than 2 years? I know the issue date (4b) states the date of issue for the current licence but how would they know if you didn't have a previously issued one?

Because date of issue of your entitlements for certain category is listed by that category.
F.e. if you passed your test for cars (category in 1995, that what it says in your licence just next to category B.
Issue date (4b) is only issue date of the document. Doesn't affect issue date of entitlements for certain categories.

9935452

James Forde wrote: »

It's a ridiculous rule.

Pass test 31/07/14 - No N plate

Pass test 01/08/14 - N Plate

The law is an ass - does little to serve the driver except more impatience from morons who see a car with a plate on it.[/QUOTE

The law is an ass but not displaying n plates IMO is a retarded way of getting 2 penalty points .
The op could take the risk but if he/she is caught , will get penalty points , all for a bit of pride.
The other thing i would worry about is insurance , insurance companys are looking for any reason to back out of paying claims and this could be one of them.

James Delaney

James Forde wrote: »

It's a ridiculous rule.

Pass test 31/07/14 - No N plate

Pass test 01/08/14 - N Plate

The law is an ass - does little to serve the driver except more impatience from morons who see a car with a plate on it.

NO I agree with this new law.
Just because you passed, doesn't make U an expert & the plate serves as a reminder to U that ur inexperienced.
Experience is everything - that applies to everything in life.

If it slows newly qualified drivers down, great & if it saves lives, even better.
It might even save ur life.
As far as I know the N plate also goes with a speed restriction - correct me if I'm wrong.

Best of Luck.

Brasso

James Delaney wrote: »

As far as I know the N plate also goes with a speed restriction - correct me if I'm wrong.

I think that is Northern Ireland maybe, 45mph speed limit or something for R plates, no speed restrictions on the N plates here.

Ranchu

We need "O" plates for everyone over 60. "R" plates for people that can't use roundabouts properly and "W" plates for people that aren't arsed using indicators.

HeidiHeidi

Ranchu wrote: »

We need "O" plates for everyone over 60. "R" plates for people that can't use roundabouts properly and "W" plates for people that aren't arsed using indicators.

And a flashing beacon on the roof of taxis who think it's somehow ok to dive across three lanes of moving traffic to snare a fare (Kelly's corner), or do a slooowwwww five-point-turn in fast-moving traffic in Donnybrook village (well it was fast-moving until it had to screech to a halt both ways).

:mad:

ironclaw

Saw one today where they had cut the N out of the white, so it was just the red R affixed to the rear windscreen only. Agree with it or not, its part of the rules of the road and should be heavily enforced along with the staples of tax and insurance.

I agree with the plates as with an L driver, I'm more than happy to give them a little leeway and time. And for the R, I'll generally give them the same treatment as the are 'new here' Expect the unexpected from all drivers but in my opinion they are a good idea.

ofcork

Id say there are plenty of L drivers who have no plates up and getting away with it.

Spanish Eyes

I haven't seen many of the N plates around. But maybe that's just me.

Two years is too long though for it. IMV.

GvidoR

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Two years is too long though for it. IMV.

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