Moto G 5" 4G Model 164.99

dan786

In Argos

Both colours White and Black

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3794856/Trail/searchtext%3EMOTO+G.htm

sweetie

dan786 wrote: »

In Argos

Both colours White and Black

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3794856/Trail/searchtext%3EMOTO+G.htm

seems the black only comes with 4g. Me want but my 4.5" 4g is still working fine....

PaddyCar

Is this model a dual sim does anyone know?

utyh2ikcq9z76b

PaddyCar wrote: »

Is this model a dual sim does anyone know?

Negative

sweetie

PaddyCar wrote: »

Is this model a dual sim does anyone know?

i believe the non 4g model does.

FobleAsNuck

sweetie wrote: »

i believe the non 4g model does.

nope

dan786

The Non 4G 5" model is Dual Sim - This the 4G 5" model is single sim.

degsie

2nd gen models:
XT1063 Global GSM, Single SIM
XT1064 US/Canada GSM, Single SIM
XT1068 Global GSM, Dual-SIM, UK
XT1069 GSM+DTV, Dual-SIM, Brazil model supporting DTV [clarification needed]
XT1072 LTE, Single SIM, UK model
XT1079 LTE, Dual SIM

I assume it's the bolded one?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

How would this phone compare to say a galaxy s4 (current phone)

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The Honey Monster wrote: »

How would this phone compare to say a galaxy s4 (current phone)

The S4 is a much more powerful phone. The S4 has double the RAM and a much, much better processor. Not to mention the fantastic camera on the S4, compared to the average at best 8MP shooter on this guy.

This is a decent enough phone too, but there are other options for much cheaper prices. e.g. Smart Prime 6 is €89 for the exact same specs.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Appreciate that. So its no flagship replacement... My s4 needs a new LCD so I'm gone back to girlfriends old S3 and time hasn't been kind to it...sluggish, battery life terrible etc.

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The Honey Monster wrote: »

Appreciate that. So its no flagship replacement... My s4 needs a new LCD so I'm gone back to girlfriends old S3 and time hasn't been kind to it...sluggish, battery life terrible etc.

Definitely not a flagship replacement. 1GB of RAM will always be somewhat sluggish with Android, even on stock.

RossieMan

how people think that a €150 phone you can buy in a shop here can compete with a €400+ device is beyond me.

You can buy very decent spec'd devices from China in that price range, however.

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RossieMan wrote: »

how people think that a €150 phone you can buy in a shop here can compete with a €400+ device is beyond me.

You can buy very decent spec'd devices from China in that price range, however.

Smart Ultra 6 which is out soon will soon be able to do that.

Buying expensive products from China is always a lottery. Too much cash to be gambling like that.

RossieMan

Let me guess, only Vodafone stock it. Do you work for them by any chance?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

RossieMan wrote: »

how people think that a €150 phone you can buy in a shop here can compete with a €400+ device is beyond me.

You can buy very decent spec'd devices from China in that price range, however.

I assume you're referring to me. I asked was it comparable to the S4, ya know cos its been out for 3 Years now... There's no need to be like that.

T-Bird

RossieMan wrote: »

how people think that a €150 phone you can buy in a shop here can compete with a €400+ device is beyond me.

You can buy very decent spec'd devices from China in that price range, however.

Alot of these prices are inflated because some people think that owning the name of devices will update their social status.

Apple, Samsung, that thing called headphones by beats ($14 to make and sells for $?), all cost a tiny fraction to manufacture.

If people are willing to get caught up in that trap then good luck to them.

Lemsiper

I'm currently travelling through you Asia and my moto g x1032 is starting to wreck my a head a bit.

Should I try upgrade to something here in store or wait til I reach New Zealand (2/3 months) and buy online?

Also what phones should I be looking at?

DubDJ

T-Bird wrote: »

Alot of these prices are inflated because some people think that owning the name of devices will update their social status.

Apple, Samsung, that thing called headphones by beats ($14 to make and sells for $?), all cost a tiny fraction to manufacture.

If people are willing to get caught up in that trap then good luck to them.

I hardley think hundreds of millions of people around the world bought these phones because of the brand name. Apple and Samsung probably have the two best all round smartphones on the market. People will always have preferences but in terms of specs and performance there's no arguing they make great devices.

Also to think it costs $14 for beats is naive, your forgetting as well as those parts you need to factor in manufacturing, R&D, packaging, shipping, marketing and probably a whole lot of other costs. No doubt they make a big markup on the headphones but it's nowhere near that price.

Captainsatnav

Back on point, there's been at least 3 iterations of this phone (with a 2015 version coming). I have the first moto G and it's really beginning to bug me. Is this deal in Argos for the latest available version? They all look the same from the front.

Thanks

patrickmrogan

Is it better than p8000

DubDJ

Cork123456789 wrote: »

Back on point, there's been at least 3 iterations of this phone (with a 2015 version coming). I have the first moto G and it's really beginning to bug me. Is this deal in Argos for the latest available version? They all look the same from the front.

Thanks

This is the second gen and newest version of the Moto G and the 4G version too. The Moto 360 dropped price recently too but it's supposed to be due to an expected update for most of the Moto lineup.

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patrickmrogan wrote: »

Is it better than p8000

Spec-wise, no.

T-Bird

DubDJ wrote: »

I hardley think hundreds of millions of people around the world bought these phones because of the brand name. Apple and Samsung probably have the two best all round smartphones on the market. People will always have preferences but in terms of specs and performance there's no arguing they make great devices.

Also to think it costs $14 for beats is naive, your forgetting as well as those parts you need to factor in manufacturing, R&D, packaging, shipping, marketing and probably a whole lot of other costs. No doubt they make a big markup on the headphones but it's nowhere near that price.

There is plenty of evidence out there regarding their pricing and marketing strategies. They charge premium price for premium product.


This is not just limited to phones, for example there are many cosmetic products and sportswear brands that charge way over the top. Most of it is marketing, and yes a lot of money is spent here to ensure that they attract the customers. However my post mentioned cost price.

DubDJ

T-Bird wrote: »

There is plenty of evidence out there regarding their pricing and marketing strategies. They charge premium price for premium product.


This is not just limited to phones, for example there are many cosmetic products and sportswear brands that charge way over the top. Most of it is marketing, and yes a lot of money is spent here to ensure that they attract the customers. However my post mentioned cost price.

Certain things such as clothes might work that way but two of the biggest flagship smartphones sell mostly because they are genuinely the best out there, they are premium products so you pay for what you get.

The Moto G is similar, buying this over a generic brand means you get a lot of support services, these phones generally get Android updates quick enough compared to other manufacturers too. Also some of the pre-installed software is actually good on the Motorolla phones.

Plenty of reasons to choose this other than brand name.

T-Bird

DubDJ wrote: »

Certain things such as clothes might work that way but two of the biggest flagship smartphones sell mostly because they are genuinely the best out there, they are premium products so you pay for what you get.

The Moto G is similar, buying this over a generic brand means you get a lot of support services, these phones generally get Android updates quick enough compared to other manufacturers too. Also some of the pre-installed software is actually good on the Motorolla phones.

Plenty of reasons to choose this other than brand name.

I agree completely. They invest heavily in r&d to make sure that they agree always on top and release the latest tech. I have spent the last few years researching how these companies function. And how much value there is in a brand name. Example Lenovo buying out IBM and Motorola in order to get into this lucrative market.

A successful brand name is expected to have premium support services in today's environment. Premium product ensures premium profits.

DanC90

I own the original G and it still runs great for me but having used a few 5" + phones like the Moto G2 I wanted to get a phone with the bigger screen, I was thinking of getting this too but the 3rd gen is due to be announced soon but having looked at the leaks of the 3rd gen it supposedly will have the same snapdragon 410 as the new Moto E! , the same 1gb of RAM and exact screen from the 2nd gen. The only thing supposedly getting an upgrade is the cameras, if that all proves to be true then it would be worth picking up the second gen for this price instead if your like me and upgrading from the 1st gen.

Atlas_IRL

The second gen is duel free, i bought it here after i microwaved my s4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NBSZ56C?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

They can be a bit sluggish and the camera is crap but for the price its nice.

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Atlas_IRL wrote: »

The second gen is duel free, i bought it here after i microwaved my s4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NBSZ56C?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

They can be a bit sluggish and the camera is crap but for the price its nice.

Meh, there are better phones for similar prices. And I don't mean Chinese.

thierry14

Techmaster wrote: »

Meh, there are better phones for similar prices. And I don't mean Chinese.

Agree Moto G had it's day.

Smart Ultra 6 you mentioned for €169 is far superior spec wise.

Its similar in specs to flagships of 2 years ago, S4, Z1, Htc One etc

http://shop.vodafone.ie/shop/phones/vodafone-smart-ultra-6-pay-as-you-go-anthracite

http://www.trustedreviews.com/vodafone-smart-ultra-6-review

thefinalstage

thierry14 wrote: »

Agree Moto G had it's day.

Smart Ultra 6 you mentioned for €169 is far superior spec wise.

Its similar in specs to flagships of 2 years ago, S4, Z1, Htc One etc

http://shop.vodafone.ie/shop/phones/vodafone-smart-ultra-6-pay-as-you-go-anthracite

http://www.trustedreviews.com/vodafone-smart-ultra-6-review

Once it's confirmed it can be unlocked on the cheap. Then it may replace it.

Mantis Toboggan

Techmaster wrote: »

The S4 is a much more powerful phone. The S4 has double the RAM and a much, much better processor. Not to mention the fantastic camera on the S4, compared to the average at best 8MP shooter on this guy.

This is a decent enough phone too, but there are other options for much cheaper prices. e.g. Smart Prime 6 is €89 for the exact same specs.

Where have you seen the Smart Prime 6 for €89 ?

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Buddy Holly wrote: »

Where have you seen the Smart Prime 6 for €89 ?

Vodafone's website and in my local store - big poster on the July brochure also.

RossieMan

What sort of commission are you on? Youve dodged all my questions asking you about working for Vodafone.

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RossieMan wrote: »

What sort of commission are you on? Youve dodged all my questions asking you about working for Vodafone.

Have you? Haven't seen them. That's all you seem to do around here anyway. Accusations, accusations, accusations. Quit it buddy. :rolleyes:

RossieMan

Dodging the questions I see.

Dozen Wicked Words

RossieMan wrote: »

Dodging the questions I see.

This is quite a good thread, if someone isn't being open about their motivation behind recommendations.

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056955066/1

Edit: Not that I'm implying anyone is or isn't here.

moodrater

Well judging by this thread two weeks ago its fairly unlikely techmaster works for vodafone:
http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057447815/

RossieMan

He most probably doesn't work for vodafone, i get that. But pushing the same product over multiple threads is a bit suspicious.

Seems like a lovely person though, to be fair.

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Ha! Can't admit he was wrong - brilliant!!

RossieMan

All you had to do was say you had no affiliation to Vodafone. Youve yet to do that. I don't see why you're pushing the smart 6 so much its not logical.

Anyway we've pushed this off topic enough, its not even about the phone you're pushing.

deadanonymau5

RossieMan wrote: »

All you had to do was say you had no affiliation to Vodafone. Youve yet to do that. I don't see why you're pushing the smart 6 so much its not logical.

Anyway we've pushed this off topic enough, its not even about the phone you're pushing.

He likes the phone, so he recommends it. When people get a product they really like they encourage others to get it.

RossieMan wrote: »

All you had to do was say you had no affiliation to Vodafone. Youve yet to do that. I don't see why you're pushing the smart 6 so much its not logical.

Are you serious? :pac:
He doesn't owe you anything for your tin foil hat conspiracies.

thierry14

RossieMan wrote: »

All you had to do was say you had no affiliation to Vodafone. Youve yet to do that. I don't see why you're pushing the smart 6 so much its not logical.

Anyway we've pushed this off topic enough, its not even about the phone you're pushing.

Maybe because it's better than the over rated moto g.

Smart 6 ultra is an excellent deal, its a far better phone than that weak ass moto g.

Moto g is a 99 euro phone, anyone paying over 150 for one is being robbed.

strelok

it's an excellent deal if you don't mind being locked in to vodafone

NegativeOne

strelok wrote: »

it's an excellent deal if you don't mind being locked in to vodafone

Can be unlocked for about €5 on eBay. I'm going to go have a look at one of these today, looks like a great offer.

strelok

NegativeOne wrote: »

Can be unlocked for about €5 on eBay. I'm going to go have a look at one of these today, looks like a great offer.

orally?

well this changes things

NegativeOne

strelok wrote: »

orally?

well this changes things

According to xda anyway. Just going to make sure with seller before buying one though.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/vodafone-smart-ultra-6-t3143952/post61567569#post61567569

Think we should make a new thread if we're going to continue talking about the smart ultra 6.